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All Forum Posts by: Mark Hawthorne

Mark Hawthorne has started 6 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: The Birk Economic Recovery Plan

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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I didnt write it but got in an email ,and yes it did look good !

Post: The Birk Economic Recovery Plan

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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Subject: The Birk Economic Recovery Plan

I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We
Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide
U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and
child.

So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It
Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college - it'll be there
Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car - create jobs
Invest in the market - capital drives growth
Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed
Forces.

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of
trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( "vote buy" ) economic incentive that

is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult
U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea that can "never work."

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in
Washington DC .

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards,

Birk

T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it's either good for a
laugh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!

P.P.S. Even if the number is 250 million adults, the share is $340,000
gross each!!!

($238,000 net after that estimated 30% federal tax rate)

Your state and local governments will want "their share"
too, but think of all the pre-financed public works projects that could get done.
More jobs!

Repave streets and upgrade utilities--that needs labor, and
equipment and materials.

This is way better than "trickle-down" economics--it would
be "tidal wave" economics!

Make sure the $25 billion that goes right back to Uncle Sam
gets used for debt reduction.

PPPS--I heard on the radio that the total of all recent and potential
near-term bailouts may reach $500 billion. Put another way,
half-a-trillion dollars. Or 500,000 million!

Post: Than Merrill of Flip This House

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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Last Night I attended my first local REI meeting and Paul Esajian was the speaker.
He is one of the guys on “ Flip this house†( the New Haven team ) I stopped watching
The show a few years back , It was so fake and set up , maybe its changed ill have to watch a few and see for myself, hears a link to some of the Controversy behind this program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_This_House_(TV_series)

For the most part it was interesting, learned a thing or two, the ONE thing I really was interested in was in his rehab break down in cost , ( like mentioned above ) That really looked good and I would love to have that, for the price ,$1200 im still considering it.
He also had an option on the 4 day workshop along with 2 of the courses for I think it was $2600 ? something like that , where you can spend 4 days with them and look at 3 of the properties they are doing on the tv show, one will be before work has begun ,another is in the process and the last is complete , all 3 would air in the series and you would get updates on how he or the team thought they did, mistakes , how it would be done different ETC. He is doing a 1 day seminar on Saturday that I would like to attend , just not sure if I will be in town, let ya know if I go ,how it went.

Post: Long and short of my first rehab coments welcome

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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My First Rehab the long and Short of it

( feel free to just scroll down to the end !)

This house was my Girlfriends house and her son was living their during the first part of the rehab, so the going was very slow in the beginning ( I was trying to get him to buy the house ,but it didn’t work out with his job) after he moved I spent the next 3 mo. Doing the rest. For the most part I worked alone , I have all my own tools and equipment and my knowledge on fixing up a house isn’t bad , I worked on my uncles rent houses for years so I have more than basic experience in doing plumbing , electrical, Paint ,woodworking ETC.

The House
Located in Oklahoma city, Oklahoma
1538 sf.
Built in 1978
3 bed 2 bath
2 car garage
Brick
Cathedral living and master bed
Ranch
1 fireplace

First Look

This house looked pretty bad, totally outdated, nothing had been done in years and what was done was done poorly. The lot its self had problems also , it was on a hill so the driveway was steep, if their was an ice storm ,no way to get up it, the back yard was worse, on a hill so mowing was a pain, it had a row of shrubs that were out of control.
5’ high X 4†wide X 40’ long . this acted as a retaining wall and took up at least 800 sf of the back yard ( and looked like hell) stockade fence ? what stockade fence, we will call them sticks.

This is what I did over the 3 months

What was removed and replaced with

Removed the drop down ceiling in kitchen and installed canister lights.
Took out approximately 6 ft. of walls between the dining and living room.
All popcorn ceiling texture and did hand texture throughout .
Changed out both the front and back doors and replaced them with leaded glass and internal blind doors. All other hall way doors replaced with raised panel doors. All door handles ,pull handles and hinges on cabinets and storage replaced with brushed SS.
Changed out the old kitchen counter tops ( thay were green and white tile) with pre made granite look alike laminate , put in SS sink and faucet. Added crown molding to the top of kitchen cabinets and fireplace. Removed old floor tile ( dark green ) from kitchen, dining and utility room and put in 18†neutral color Tile. Took out all old carpet and replaced with new in a neutral color . ( off white with sprigs of darker in it) re stained the kitchen cabinets with “ Minwax†Polyblend all in one using Bombay Mahogany ( I love this stuff ,no sanding clean with mineral spirits, and paint on, 2 coats usually does it $12 total) this is a dark redish color with black in the grain look. Painted all other woodwork in bright white, painted all the interior and exterior of the house and put in a new stockade fence and removed all the over grown shrubs that were the retaining wall.
Both bathrooms put in real granite counter tops with under mount sinks and SS faucets.
Picked up a great deal ( paid $450 for all ) that’s the big stuff.

So hears the short

House again
Located in Oklahoma city , OK
1538 sf.
Built in 1978
3 bed 2 bath
2 car garage
Brick
Cathedral living and master bed
Ranch
1 fireplace

She owed $69,000
I did all the work and had all the tools .
Only big tool I bought was an airless paint sprayer ( $400)
And rented a “ pogo stick “ to remove tile ( say $100 )

Total out of pocket was $9,500

Sold in 9 days FSBO ( craigs list , spent $90 on newspaper add no one came, put signs all over some big and small, only 3 ever looked and the last 2 got into a bidding war , this house Is located in the middle of a one square mile area full of neighborhoods and at the end of a street.

By the Numbers

House is 1538sf

Owed on house $69.000 ( $44.86 psft.)
Spent on rehab $9,500 ($6.18 psft.)
Sold in 9 days $122.500 ( $79.65 psft.)
On the last 10 sales in area 1-18-08 thru 9-1-08
Highest psft. $80.59
Lowest psft. $52.21
Average $72.82 ( 10 sales )

What we ended up with was $114.00 ( $74.12)
After paying taxes , taking off $1000 for not finishing the retaining wall ,paying closing etc. we also had to pay mortgage and utilities over that 3 mo. For $2,700

So after taking $69,000 + $9,500 + 2,700 = $81,200
From $114,000 we end up with $ 32,800 in the bank. (minus 3 mo. Of me not fishing)

Where I lost money and saved money

I lost big time on being to much of a perfectionist, ( that’s just the way I am) I used better than builder grade on everything, doors had to open and close perfectly , better paint in a lot of places, redoing work over and over until it was up to my standard was the worst.
And doing more than was most likely needed to sell. But I was afraid of not getting top dollar and being able to sell quickly in this market, their were 10 or more houses up for sale around me all the time, most had been up for 3 to 4 mo.

I was not planning on removing the tile floor, but after removing the walls , we had a few extra tile but ended up being 3 tile short, this required removing all the tile floor and that I wasn’t planning on doing, so more time and money.

Where I saved was using habitat for humanity as much as possible, buying paint (5 gal $40 , paint brushes ($2 , rollers $1) etc, the paint by the way was Sherman Williams just relabeled. And using craigslist.org and using “big trash days†for getting rid of every thing.

Well I didn’t mean to write a book, but their it is , comment if you wish good or bad,

One last thing, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS SITE!!!
I found this site just before starting to do this project, and haven’t had time to
Read until now, spent the last 12 hours reading and learning .

My main interest at this time is wholesaling , Im hoping with my latest experience it will help me in the future with estimating not only the expense but the time it takes to complete a job from start to finish.

Markus AKA Penetrater

Post: So whats in a Name ? holdings, properities ETC (then) LLC

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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Thanks Jon,,once again the K.I.S.S system seams to be the best!

Post: A Friend in need, can I help and make a buck or two ?

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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Thanks Guys, That is some good news about the tax not having to be repaid back!

still wondering about

On a New home, no Equity to speak of, and in this market. what would you offer on a short sale,? how much money does the lender risk to lose if when the home owner finally is kicked out and thay are not that nice at removing their items ?

Verses say me or someone making an offer, and knowing that their will be no damages to fix ?

Like i said, i know nothing *( ya think !!)

Thanks - Mark

Post: So whats in a Name ? holdings, properities ETC (then) LLC

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
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Thanks Jeff ,that is great info !,I was refering to what Jon was saying,

As i am setting up my LLC ,and deciding on what name to call it.
got the first part of the name ready , now I need to define it a bit, for the most part planning on Wholesaling at least in the begining but i dont think naming it " X And X Wholesaling LLC " would work, most likley start getting calls on toys made in china,,

Thanks Jon about not using " Properties or Investments" I was not aware af that fact !

What are some other "key " words one might use in an LLC Title for doing this kind of work ?

realestate,, holdings, home buyers,,???

Thanks- Mark

Post: So whats in a Name ? holdings, properities ETC (then) LLC

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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Just Not shure whats in the name, I see LLC but before that i have seen Properities , Holdings, Investments etc,,

Do I need to ( when forming my LLC ) need to use one or the other depending on what type of business i im going to do ?

Post: Let me make shure I got this Right

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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Why just a church ? why not a " non-Profit " petting zoo, for 24 mo. ,, no intrest in that,, hmmm time to sell,,,,

Post: Let me make shure I got this Right

Mark HawthornePosted
  • Handyman
  • oklahoma city, OK
  • Posts 17
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OK, last week I found a house that looked good, but was listed as " Non-Profit", so I could not bid.

This week it goes to " Owner Occupant" so I could bid, ( as an Invester)
but if somone that wanted to live in the house , bid lower ,would still get the house.

Next week ,or so it should go to " any and all bids" if it were still avalable.
and the highest bidder would get the house as long as the bid was high enough for them to accept it. correct ?

In your area , how many homes that DONT require lots of repair , i.e. say 10% of the listing price to put it on the market make it that far ?

My example is this one.

List price is say $95,000 with comps would be $145,000
and after reading the property report and looking at all the pics ( no I havent done my own yet , but i would befor i bid ) To do a complete Update, no granite, but but nice and eqeal or better than those in the area would be $10,000, most likley less. one thing i didnt like was There is one layer of asphalt shingles over one layer of wood shake shingles,
, with that said , the roof still looks good.

One reason I like THIS house is its only a few miles from my house and I would be doing most all the work, and the numbers do look good to me!

what do you think ?

Thanks in Advance
Mark