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All Forum Posts by: Paul B.

Paul B. has started 8 posts and replied 491 times.

Post: What are you investing in with your Solo 401K?

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

@Jeffrey Radcliffe

Now that you've expressed interest, you may start getting contacted on BP by people doing these deals. There are various SEC regulations involved in these syndications, but generally you need to either be an accredited investor or have a pre-existing business relationship with the sponsor. The folks who reach out to you via BP may be perfectly legitimate, but it's important to vet them for yourself first before doing business together. Actually, you need to vet the sponsor him/herself, as well as the deal. Good for you for knowing that already. 

How did I get into this? I started attending Meetups in my area. Several are dedicated to multi-family investing. That's where you meet sponsors. After getting to know them, and meeting other investors at the same events who can serve as a reference, you can decide which ones you might trust with your money. I think it's a process that should take at least a few months, if not more. In other words, don't invest with someone you just met. So you can vet them by asking how long they've been doing it? How many deals have they done and what were the results? What is their criteria for acquiring properties (e.g. stable cash flowing properties or poorly performing properties that they will improve) What returns do they project (e.g. 8-10% yearly cash flow and sell the property for 50% capital gains in 3-5 years)? Is this a full-time job or a side-job? What is their day job, or what did they do before this became a full-time job? How will the sponsor be compensated (e.g. 20% of profits only, or are they taking upfront acquisition fees)? Is the sponsor putting their own money into the deal? Networking with other investors is just as important as networking with a sponsor. Ask them what sponsors they are happy with, which ones to avoid, and how do they evaluate a potential investment?

Now how do you evaluate a deal? First thing is to make sure you understand the fundamentals of multi-family investing. There are many differences from investing in single family rentals. When you understand all the terms, like NOI, cap rates, DSCR and economic vacancy, then you can look at the sponsor's financial projections and see whether they are believable. How much economic vacancy are they projecting (every property will have some)? What is the debt coverage ratio (this tells you how safe the deal is, since the primary way to lose your money is a bank foreclosure)? What is the exit strategy (individual investors may buy and hold forever, but with a syndication, you need an exit strategy)? What type of financing (long term, fixed interest rate is the safest for weathering a downturn)? Where is the property and are the projected rents realistic? How much are they raising the rents every year and is it realistic? Are the expenses realistic and also being increased with inflation?

That just scratches the surface, but it's a start. I actually joined a mentoring program...you can probably look at some of my other posts on BP for the name. It's based here in Dallas, but students all over the US are members and doing deals all over. I decided it was worth a few thousand bucks to get fully educated...it's less than the money I would have lost on one bad deal. I am investing with students who are also part of the same program - I won't say their names here. The mentor has been doing multi-family for 15 years. I figure anyone who started before 2009 and lived through that downturn knows what he is doing. If joining a program isn't for you, there are many books where you could learn the basic principles, and you could meet sponsors on Meetup. I strongly recommend networking with other multi-family investors in your local area as a start. Send me a PM if you want any more specific information. There are a few active BP posters who seem to be successful and I could point them out you if you haven't found them already. 

Post: What are you investing in with your Solo 401K?

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

If I had one, I would be investing in multi-family syndications. I'm doing it with cash now, but I don't need all the returns and would love to do some of it in a tax-advantaged account. A solo 401(k) would be great for what I am doing, because there is less tax liability than a SD IRA. But I am not self-employed, so it would be a difficult to set one up. And my current 401(k) does not allow in-service distributions, so I cannot get at that money unless I quit my job, which I don't intend to do.

Post: Own or Rent your own Residence

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

I used to live in a condo that I owned. Then a job transfer sent me out of state, and the place became my first rental property. Since that time I have been a renter. I considered buying another condo in a desirable neighborhood, where I could live and then rent it out if I ever left, but have since decided to invest in larger multi-family syndications. I don't intend to buy anytime soon. I'll probably never accumulate enough money for a down-payment, since I invest all my excess cash.

Post: An American Nightmare

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

Good for you for getting on this path. 

What about Lending Club for paying down that credit card debt with a loan that has a lower interest rate?

As for the suggestions to downsize your home....a $350K house is not extreme for a family with your income. One of the reasons people fail in their goals is that they are too ambitious, and they give up altogether. A more reasonable plan is to commit to staying in this home, regardless of how much money you make in the future. When you get out of consumer debt, and potentially start making some additional money in REI, the temptation will be there to upgrade your lifestyle. Something (either your and/or your wife's desire to keep up with the Joneses) got you into this predicament in the first place, and it may creep up again when you are more flush. You say your wife is on board with everything but downsizing the home. Okay, can you at least get her to agree that this home is where you are planting your roots, and you won't be upgrading (or adding a new wing) when you get out of debt, or if/when someone gets a big promotion or bonus?

Also, don't step over dollars to pick up dimes. Some have suggested taking on more work...just make sure the loss of free time doesn't lead to more meals out, baby-sitting costs, or picking up unhealthy habits. Oh, and divorce will cost a lot of money too. 

Post: Utilizing Multiple Investors

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

@Ben Wilkins

That's a good approach too. The investor gets paid a certain amount first, before the sponsor gets anything. That means the investor can feel confident that the sponsor will perform. 

The truth is, there are an infinite number of ways to structure these things. But if you are pitching to investors who haven't done this sort of thing before, it is better to keep it simple so they can understand it. 

Post: American Note Warehouse

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504
Originally posted by @Carl B.:

Let us be mindful that J.W. Warr and James Elton Warr are two different people that at one point in time promoted partials.

Wait, so they are different people? A previous poster said it's the same guy.

Post: Utilizing Multiple Investors

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

To the comments that someone investing 5% (or 50%) of the capital should get 5% (or 50%) of the profits, what if someone invests 100%? They get all the profits, and the person doing the work gets nothing? I suggest modifying the structure slightly. Maybe the people doing all the work get 20% equity, and the investors get 80%. That means someone putting up 50% of the capital ends up with 40% of the profits, in exchange for doing no work. 

I agree with the comments that syndication is normally a good route, but doesn't make sense for small properties. 

Post: New Investor from Singapore

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

All other things being equal, it's better to invest in landlord-friendly states. Indiana is better than Illinois, for example. You want a place where you can evict a tenant in one month (versus nine months) for non-payment of rent. There are other factors to consider, like population growth, and overall job growth, as well as a diverse economy that is not overly-dependent on a single industry. 

Post: New member, invest through syndicator or directly?

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504
Originally posted by @Ivan Barratt:

@Chris Baker I highly recommend NOT using home equity loan in syndication or any other long term investment. That's called going long with short money. If the spread between your cost of capital and return inverts (goes negative) because of interest rate environment, deal flatlines or fails, etc you'll be in bad shape.  That's how companies and investors can go bust!

 Ivan, can you elaborate on the home equity loan? If you have substantial equity in your home, and can get a fixed rate loan for $50,000 at 4%, and you are confident that a deal will return at least 10%, AND your income is such that if the deal fails, you would still be able to make those loan payments out of pocket without jeopardizing your home, do you still that is too risky?

Post: Passive Income Journey Starts Today!

Paul B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 501
  • Votes 504

I agree with those saying to go bigger. You would need hundreds of houses to get $40,000 a month in cash flow. Instead, you can own a share of several large multi-family or commercial properties. Participating in a syndication is the way to go. Meet people who are doing these deals, and after you build a relationship and have determined that they are trustworthy and competent, give them your money and let them do the work.