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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Gerrity

Patrick Gerrity has started 5 posts and replied 20 times.

Originally posted by @Brian Schmelzlen:

@Patrick Gerrity Generally with commercial properties the value is the NOI divided by the average cap rate for that type of property within the local market. You may want to talk to local realtors and brokers to get an idea for what the local cap rate is.

The building sounds great, but it also sounds like there is not much opportunity for forced appreciation.  That means you will probably get your money back at the average cap rate and not sooner.

Thanks Brian, Im now in touch with my broker to get his take.  Also, Im looking more for a cash flow asset vs. appreciation over time, so the cashflow is really what brought me in.  Our downtown is on an upswing but you know how that goes, its a roller coaster!  

Originally posted by @Omar Khan:

@Patrick Gerrity The cap rate is another way of saying how much will the market pay for a $ of (unleveraged) returns. Therefore, if an investor pays $10 for every every $1 of earnings, it is a 10% cap rate. But another investor can value the same cash stream differently. 

For example, an elderly couple might be willing to pay more because they feel that the "quality of cash flow" (consistency) is more predictable. Thus, it is a better fit for their needs. Hence, they might be willing to pay more for the same stream of cash flows. They might pay $15 for the same $1 of cash flow or a cap rate of 6.67%.

Initially, it can be confusing understanding this inverse relationship. But the framework above might help you to view it from a different perspective. Hope this helps!

Thank you, that is a big help. Supposedly the CAP on this is 12%, however that is what the owner claims. I am hoping that I can can get the property for $850k, and at that point I can swing it. Also the cashflow is outstanding based on the numbers provided.

Originally posted by @Brian Schmelzlen:
Originally posted by @Patrick Gerrity:

Net operating income is $133,500

If the cap rate is 10%, for example, the building's value is $1.335 million.  If its 5%, the building's value is $2.67 million.

 Thank you for that info!  I am confused though how if the cap rate is lower the building is worth more?  Wouldnt it be the opposite?  (forgive the newbie here)

Net operating income is $133,500
Hey everyone!! So Ive been doing multi family buildings and some self storage partnering, however I’ve never really done anything commercial myself. I came across a private deal in my hometown that I am truly interested in. It is a commercial property that consists of 7 apartments upstairs, with three commercial spaces downstairs. All storefronts, with 2 large chain fast food restaurants and a tobacco shop. It is smack dab in the heart of the downtown area of the city, with a very large amount of 9-5 workers getting their lunches there. It is currently fully occupied. Right now any apartments in that area have a 1-2 year waiting list to get in. Yearly rental income is $170,000. Taxes are $22,000 a year, and the asking price is $1 million. The problem that I have is I don’t know what to offer on this deal. Like I said, I’ve never done commercial and I’m not sure how to valuation this property. Can anyone help or give me some opinions? Thanks!!

Post: 1031 exchange with an inherited IRA?

Patrick GerrityPosted
  • Scranton, PA
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@Carl Fischer thanks, by grow it do you mean leave it in the stock market? Or invest in real estate? My current plan with the money taken out is to buy multi family 3's and 4's.

Post: 1031 exchange with an inherited IRA?

Patrick GerrityPosted
  • Scranton, PA
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@George Blower it was from my parents estate. I am in need of cash flow at this time due to my son going to college, which is why I am going to be taking large chunks out at once. I was just hoping there was a good way to mitigate the liability.

Post: 1031 exchange with an inherited IRA?

Patrick GerrityPosted
  • Scranton, PA
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Interesting. It's with Schwab. You would think I should probably know what I have, lol. I need to be more invested, that is readily apparent.

Post: 1031 exchange with an inherited IRA?

Patrick GerrityPosted
  • Scranton, PA
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So I looked into it further and my Inherited IRA is in fact a self directed IRA... what's my move now? Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it!

Post: 1031 exchange with an inherited IRA?

Patrick GerrityPosted
  • Scranton, PA
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I have money in an inherited IRA account, that I am pulling out to purchase an investment property. Does this type of purchase meet the requirements of a 1031 exchange? This purchase will significantly raise my tax liability at the end of the year, as it will bring my income into the 33% plus tax bracket at least. I am just trying to figure out how to mitigate that major tax bill at the end of this year. Does anyone have any advice on this, or some other type of strategy to mitigate that? Thanks!