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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Farley

Patrick Farley has started 10 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: Moving out of state. Rent out SFH or sell?

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5

I'm in same boat and decided to rent ours.  Had it listed for sale and no interest.  

Not a simple answer though, and you need more data though to make an informed decision.  What could you rent it for?  How would you manage the property?  Net operating income after expenses?  Do you need the cash for use elsewhere?  

Post: Convert Home to Rental - Would lender call in the loan?

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5

My wife and I are moving out of state.  New home purchased under my name, with current home in my wife's name.  We aren't having much luck trying to sell our current home and the rental numbers are better than expected.  

Plan is to rent for 2 years then sell to avoid capital gains, but do we need to notify the lender or do we run the risk of them calling in the note?  We are set up for auto-pay, so I know some would suggest they don't care as long as they're paid on time.  With the notes in separate names, is there anything else we need to consider with financial liability?

Post: Selling versus Renting Dilemma

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Scott E.:

A cash out refinance or a HELOC will be challenging because you are in the process of moving out of this house. When the lender catches wind of that, the terms of your refinance will change drastically, or you may just be flat out denied the loan.

Also with either of the above options you won't be able to access that 40% worth of equity. You'll be able to access 15-20% at best.

If you really need the capital for other opportunities, staying the course with trying to sell is the right move. As another poster mentioned, if your property is not selling, it is likely priced too high.


Thanks Scott.  I agree.  Crazy part is the offer we had agreed to was above asking.  I think we are still in the right range... thinking our best option right now is to leave it listed versus decreasing our ask.

Post: Selling versus Renting Dilemma

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Stuart Grazier:

@Patrick Farley I don't think you'll see any type of positive cash flow on a single family home rental property in Lakewood (unless you are willing to rent by the room). And if you aren't getting any offers on your property, you either have it listed too high, or your agent isn't marketing it correctly. I'd try to change one of those two things (price or listing agent) because Denver is still a pretty hot market and most properties are still selling fairly quickly. 


 Hi Stuart - Home is in SOBO and we have projections on rental market already calculated.  I think the macro-economic environment has buyers spooked.

Post: Do I deserve compensation?

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5

Great feedback!  Thanks!  

Post: Do I deserve compensation?

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5

BP --

I have recently started tapping into my network to connect folks for various reasons, personal or business related.  I'm wondering if I should ask for some type of compensation for my "services" as a connector.  

For example, I have connected someone looking to buy rental properties with another couple looking to sell their entire rental portfolio.  The value of the deal is over $2M and could be very good for both parties.  I am happy to help, and won't be negatively effected either way, but do I deserve anything for helping to "broker" this deal?  At least a steak dinner, right?  Do I even bring it up?  Thanks :)

Post: Selling versus Renting Dilemma

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5

We have our Denver home listed as we are relocating out of state. It's a new build in a good area. However, we have had fairly low traffic with one offer from investment group to buy and rent, which unfortunately fell through. From the input and date we've gathered, our monthly NOI would be 2k rented. Not concerned remote PM as I have boots on the ground and can automate bill pay/service requests.

My dilemma is I would like to tap into our 40% equity for alternative investments.  Not to mention, we are into another home in an even more expensive market, which I fear we overpaid for, and psychologically, I'm scared to be hit in two places in the event of a downturn.

Seeking any/all BP input and welcome discussion. 

Post: Experience with FSBO - Colorado

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5

I am looking to connect with people who have experience selling home by owner.  This could include pros/cons though we are pretty set on going our own way with this one.  Thanks!

Thanks for the info.

Post: Buying Land/Lot in Second Home Markets

Patrick FarleyPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Lakewood, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 5

From my vantage point, market fluctuations for land tend to lag behind home prices, particularly in today's climate and there's still value in desirable locations where homes are priced out.  Any strong opinions about acquiring land as a buy & hold asset?  For context, we are considering acquiring a lot in Steamboat Springs and building over the course of 3-5 yrs, but I don't know enough to assess whether a lot purchase now is a good buy without having the end game determined.