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All Forum Posts by: Paolo De Leon

Paolo De Leon has started 7 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Buy and Hold - Valencia, Spain

Paolo De LeonPosted
  • Investor
  • Valencia, Spain
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Erwin Groenendijk:


Hey Erwin! Thanks for the vote confidence! Yes, a meet up sounds good. I also found another BP member who lives in Valencia. We can do BP Spain meetup! I'll send you an DM.

Post: Buy and Hold - Valencia, Spain

Paolo De LeonPosted
  • Investor
  • Valencia, Spain
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Valencia.

Purchase price: $58,400
Cash invested: $58,400
Sale price: $70,500

Buy and Hold Project - Valencia, Spain
57sqm, 3 beds, 1 bath, lift
List Price: €64,000
Sold Price: €53,000
Offer Date: January 24, 2018
Closing Date: March 14, 2018
Condition: Vacant, full renovation needed
Agent Commission: €3210 (6%)
9% ITP Tax: €4770
Lawyer Fees: €1000
Notaria/Gestoria: €874
Total Closings Costs: €9854
Rehab (Reforma)
Labor: €21,145
Carpentry (kitchen, cabinets, side tables): €1900
Windows: €1771
Materials: €12,775

TOTAL PURCHASE + REFORM = €96,774

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My wife and I were looking for distressed or vacant condominiums in Valencia. These types of condos offered the cheapest price points with lots of room for negotiation. We chose Mislata because it's in the top 10 most densely populated towns in Europe with a population of approximately 54,000 in just 2.1 square kilometers which made the average rent very high. Mislata also has 2 subway stops, a growing commercial area, and new condominium projects.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

At the time we were still living in Las Vegas, Nevada. We found this property online through "Idealista" which is one of Spain's popular real estate search engines. We got in contact with the agent and had my wife's mom view it for us. They sent us the video, negotiated the terms over the phone then we sent an international wire transfer to the broker to hold the property. We closed the deal when we moved to Spain.

How did you finance this deal?

This was a cash deal.

How did you add value to the deal?

Full renovation; new plumbing, electric work, paint, and flooring. The Spanish tile is so cheap here and so beautiful! We chose a Meditteranean design for the tiles in the balcony and bathroom to give it some character!

What was the outcome?

Overall it was a success! We got a good deal on it because the sellers were desperate to sell. Currently (March 2020), the condo is now worth €120,000. The property will soon be listed for rent for €700-750. The expected cash flow minus expenses are €600-650.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We learned a lot from this deal. The basic process is patterned after the states but just like any international market, it has its own quirks and laws to navigate. The rehab process was a great experience. We found an awesome contractor (reformista) who was recommended to us by a family friend in Spain so we lucked out on that one.
Challenges?
-My poor wife had to be my walking Google translate! (I'm still learning Spanish)
-SLOW. Systems here are slow.
-Very expensive acquisition costs.

Post: Buy and Hold - Valencia, Spain

Paolo De LeonPosted
  • Investor
  • Valencia, Spain
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Valencia.

Purchase price: $58,400
Cash invested: $58,400
Sale price: $70,500

Buy and Hold Project - Valencia, Spain

57sqm, 3 beds, 1 bath, lift
List Price: €64,000
Sold Price: €53,000
Offer Date: January 24, 2018
Closing Date: March 14, 2018
Condition: Vacant, full renovation needed

Agent Commission: €3210 (6%)
9% ITP Tax: €4770
Lawyer Fees: €1000
Notaria/Gestoria: €874
Total Closings Costs: €9854

Rehab (Reforma)
Labor: €21,145
Carpentry (kitchen, cabinets, side tables): €1900
Windows: €1771
Materials: €12,775

TOTAL PURCHASE + REFORM = €96,774

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My wife and I were looking for distressed or vacant condominiums in Valencia. These types of condos offered the cheapest price points with lots of room for negotiation. We chose Mislata because it's in the top 10 most densely populated towns in Europe with a population of approximately 54,000 in just 2.1 square kilometers which made the average rent very high. Mislata also has 2 subway stops, a growing commercial area, and new condominium projects.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

At the time we were still living in Las Vegas, Nevada. We found this property online through "Idealista" which is one of Spain's popular real estate search engines. We got in contact with the agent and had my wife's mom view it for us. They sent us the video, negotiated the terms over the phone then we sent an international wire transfer to the broker to hold the property. We closed the deal when we moved to Spain.

How did you finance this deal?

This was a cash deal.

How did you add value to the deal?

Full renovation; new plumbing, electric work, paint, and flooring. The Spanish tile is so cheap here and so beautiful! We chose a Meditteranean design for the tiles in the balcony and bathroom to give it some character!

What was the outcome?

Overall it was a success! We got a good deal on it because the sellers were desperate to sell. Currently (March 2020), the condo is now worth €120,000. The property will soon be listed for rent for €700-750. The expected cash flow minus expenses are €600-650.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We learned a lot from this deal. The basic process is patterned after the states but just like any international market, it has its own quirks and laws to navigate. The rehab process was a great experience. We found an awesome contractor (reformista) who was recommended to us by a family friend in Spain so we lucked out on that one.
Challenges?
-My poor wife had to be my walking Google translate! (I'm still learning Spanish)
-SLOW. Systems here are slow.
-Very expensive acquisition costs.

Post: Buy and Hold - Valencia, Spain

Paolo De LeonPosted
  • Investor
  • Valencia, Spain
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Valencia.

Purchase price: $58,400
Cash invested: $58,400
Sale price: $70,500

Buy and Hold Project - Valencia, Spain

57sqm, 3 beds, 1 bath, lift
List Price: €64,000
Sold Price: €53,000
Offer Date: January 24, 2018
Closing Date: March 14, 2018
Condition: Vacant, full renovation needed

Agent Commission: €3210 (6%)
9% ITP Tax: €4770
Lawyer Fees: €1000
Notaria/Gestoria: €874
Total Closings Costs: €9854

Rehab (Reforma)
Labor: €21,145
Carpentry (kitchen, cabinets, side tables): €1900
Windows (6 windows, 2 doors): €1771
Materials: €12,775

TOTAL PURCHASE + REFORM = €96,774

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My wife and I were looking for distressed or vacant condominiums in Valencia. These types of condos offered the cheapest price points with lots of room for negotiation. We chose Mislata because it's in the top 10 most densely populated towns in Europe with a population of approximately 54,000 in just 2.1 square kilometers which made the average rent very high. Mislata also has 2 subway stops, a growing commercial area, and new condominium projects.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

At the time we were still living in Las Vegas, Nevada. We found this property online through "Idealista" which is one of Spain's popular real estate search engines. We got in contact with the agent and had my wife's mom view it for us. They sent us the video, negotiated the terms over the phone then we sent an international wire transfer to the broker to hold the property. We closed the deal when we moved to Spain.

How did you finance this deal?

This was a cash deal.

How did you add value to the deal?

Full renovation; new plumbing, electric work, paint, and flooring. The Spanish tile is so cheap here and so beautiful! We chose a Meditteranean design for the tiles in the balcony and bathroom to give it some character!

What was the outcome?

Overall it was a success! We got a good deal on it because the sellers were desperate to sell. Currently (March 2020), the condo is now worth €120,000. The property will soon be listed for rent for €700-750. The expected cash flow minus expenses are €600-650.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We learned a lot from this deal. The basic process is patterned after the states but just like any international market, it has its own quirks and laws to navigate. The rehab process was a great experience. We found an awesome contractor (reformista) who was recommended to us by a family friend in Spain so we lucked out on that one.

Challenges?
-My poor wife had to be my walking Google translate! (I'm still learning Spanish)
-SLOW. Systems here are slow.
-Very expensive acquisition costs.

Post: Buy and Hold - Valencia, Spain

Paolo De LeonPosted
  • Investor
  • Valencia, Spain
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 3

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Valencia.

Purchase price: $58,400
Cash invested: $58,400
Sale price: $70,500

Buy and Hold Project - Valencia, Spain

This is my first rental investment in Spain. We decided to invest in a town called Mislata because of the growing population, high demand for rentals, proximity to the main city of Valencia (10 mins away by subway), and high appreciation.

Deal Details:

List Price: €64,000
Offer Price: €53,000
Sold Price: €53,000
Offer Date: January 24, 2018
Date Closed: March 14, 2018

Condition: Vacant, 20 years, original state, no electric, plumbing, water. Full renovation needed.
Square meters: 57sqm
Year built: 1965
Rooms: 3
Bathrooms: 1
Elevator: Yes
Parking: Street

Yearly Taxes: €202
Monthly HOA: €35
Home Insurance: €240

Broker Office: Expercasa
Agent: Jose

Fees Breakdown
Agent Commission: €3210 (6%)
9% ITP Tax: €4770
Lawyer Fees: €1000
Notaria/Gestoria: €874
Total Closings Costs: €9854

TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE + CLOSING COSTS: €62,854

Rehab (Reforma)

Labor: €21,145
Carpentry (kitchen, cabinets, side tables): €1900
Windows (6 windows, 2 doors): €1771
Materials: €12,775
TOTAL REFORM: €33,920

TOTAL PURCHASE + REFORM = €96,774

Date reform started: April 15, 2018
Date reform finished: July 15, 2018

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My wife and I were looking for distressed or vacant condominiums in Valencia. These types of condos offered the cheapest price points with lots of room for negotiation. We chose Mislata because it's in the top 10 most densely populated towns in Europe with a population of approximately 54,000 in just 2.1 square kilometers which made the average rent very high. Mislata also has 2 subway stops, a growing commercial area, and new condominium projects.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

At the time we were still living in Las Vegas, Nevada. We found this property online through "Idealista" which is one of Spain's popular real estate search engines. We got in contact with the agent and had my wife's mom view it for us. They sent us the video, negotiated the terms over the phone then we sent an international wire transfer to the broker to hold the property. We closed the deal when we moved to Spain.

How did you finance this deal?

This was a cash deal.

How did you add value to the deal?

Full renovation; new plumbing, electric work, paint, and flooring. The Spanish tile is so cheap here and so beautiful! We chose a Meditteranean design for the tiles in the balcony and bathroom to give it some character!

What was the outcome?

Overall it was a success! We got a good deal on it because the sellers were desperate to sell. Currently (March 2020), the condo is now worth €120,000. The property will soon be listed for rent for €700-750. The expected cash flow minus expenses are €600-650.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We learned a lot from this deal. The basic process is patterned after the states but just like any international market, it has its own quirks and laws to navigate. The rehab process was a great experience. We found an awesome contractor (reformista) who was recommended to us by a family friend in Spain so we lucked out on that one.

Challenges?
-My poor wife had to be my walking Google translate! (I'm still learning Spanish)
-SLOW. Systems here are slow.
-Very expensive acquisition costs.