All Forum Posts by: Pal Sa

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This is not related to rental property. I did not find any relevant section in which to ask this question. If a married couple owns a property together, do both spouses need to invite a guest? Is it enough if one spouse invites? Does the other spouse have a basis to take legal action against the guest they did not invite?

 Hello Pal Sa,

You are trying to ask a very general question in order to translate it privately to your situation. Unfortunately, that is not going to be very effective. If you'd like to share the details of your concern we can render better advice.

Community Property is simply property acquired during marriage (i.e. wages. real estate) that under certain state's community property laws is considered the joint property of both partners in the marriage. Excluded from this are pre-marital assets, inheritances and assets acquired during a legal separation. 

Anyone can invite anyone else anywhere. Anyone can take legal action against anyone. I hope my answer at least explains why more detail is needed to help you. 

If you have to take your current partner to court about a guest , your relationship is over . 

The poster says he means an ADU. He's new to the forum and is learning the terminology? If he wants to call it a shed, no problem, I get it. And btw, from where I came from, a shed would have been welcome. ANyways...for anyone thinking its a snap to get a legal ADU going, it isnt't. You not only have to have your building(OK'd by the city), (whatever it is or you wanna call it). Then you have the city that want their big slice of the pie. For example...the city will want 30k for the sewer, no work done, they just want 30k because it cost them that much to run your poop out to the bay, or so they say. Then you gotta find and pay someone to install your sewer line to code another 10k. Electrical, the requirements will put you in the 20k area. Installing, New panel service, underground conduits, emergency disconnects, and supplying the appropriate load usage tables to the Elec Dept is a major headache. Soil samples and tests? Engineers! Pal, you can see how this stuff adds up. As a DIY'r I can have all this done for a few grand, but when city's and legal certifications/requirements are involved the costs go up bigtime. Until all the above is done it's not a legal ADU. I hope this answers a few things. Where's my coffee?

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I am thinking of building a shed in the backyard for rental purposes. I live in the bay area. 

If you are knowledgeable about various aspects I need to consider, please do share. 

This is not an ADU. I dont have the budget for building an ADU.

Is this a joke? 

Ok, let's get this straight. You want to build a SHED, and specifically NOT an ADU, it's gonna be a SHED, but you'll make it "cozy". And curious how feasible it is or what issues there could be.

Ok, here's one issues just off top of the head; IT'S A SHED! 

Who in their right-mind do you picture renting a "cozy shed"? 

Ok, not enough? Ok, let's roll play. Say your the head of city development, and someone comes in and says "Hey buddy, I was thinking, what if I house humans in my shed? yeah, like chickens, but for humans. But don't worry it will be "cozy". What-da-ya-think?"    If in those shoes my first thought is has this person taken there med's.    Next is am I being punked.     

Would you live in a "cozy" shed? Again, your making sure we all know you WON'T do an ADU, that it's a SHED....

Really.... a flipping shed.... why not a Yurt while were at it or maybe a "sheik" tree-house? 

To be clear, I intend to follow the code and do it only if it is allowed. The reason why I called it a shed is, I did not have another word for it. These days I see tiny homes, pre-fab homes that dont cost as much as an ADU does. I am sure some people want to live in these otherwise there won't be a market around it. Asking in this forum is part of my diligence and research. Based on the responses here, it seems like my budget-friendly tiny home in the backyard for short-term rental purposes is not a viable idea.

Your making no sense here, to help here is the definition of ADU:

So is it an ADU, or a Shed?

You so NOT an ADU and that a shed, but then go on to describe an ADU. Are you just seeking to do an ADU, with the regulation of a Shed? Because that's a whole other conversation and head-slap.

And no, I don't think ANYONE want's to live in a Shed. And I don't know anyone who leases Shed's for occupancy of anything other than lawn equipment. These are human beings for Pete's sake! 

Looks like calling it a shed triggered you and many others.  I repeatedly mentioned I intend to follow the code. Whatever I build, I expect the city to know whether it is dwellable by humans or not. You are hanging on to the wording and not the intent, goals, and constraints I described. 

Thanks for your inputs. Have a nice day.

Nope, I'm hanging onto is it a Shed or an ADU.

I posted the definition of ADU to simplify this. I could describe a Yurt as a "Single Family Residence with highly flexible wall members consisting of a singular main living/dwelling area with a "natural" flooring material and "organic" heating/cooling system".... it's still a Yurt. 

Tiny homes are exactly that, tiny HOMES, there is a reason they don't call them tiny sheds. pre-fab homes are.... homes. And as you can see, adding one to your property makes it an ADU. It's not complicated bud.

Soooo.... is it a shed, or an ADU?

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I am thinking of building a shed in the backyard for rental purposes. I live in the bay area. 

If you are knowledgeable about various aspects I need to consider, please do share. 

This is not an ADU. I dont have the budget for building an ADU.

Is this a joke? 

Ok, let's get this straight. You want to build a SHED, and specifically NOT an ADU, it's gonna be a SHED, but you'll make it "cozy". And curious how feasible it is or what issues there could be.

Ok, here's one issues just off top of the head; IT'S A SHED! 

Who in their right-mind do you picture renting a "cozy shed"? 

Ok, not enough? Ok, let's roll play. Say your the head of city development, and someone comes in and says "Hey buddy, I was thinking, what if I house humans in my shed? yeah, like chickens, but for humans. But don't worry it will be "cozy". What-da-ya-think?"    If in those shoes my first thought is has this person taken there med's.    Next is am I being punked.     

Would you live in a "cozy" shed? Again, your making sure we all know you WON'T do an ADU, that it's a SHED....

Really.... a flipping shed.... why not a Yurt while were at it or maybe a "sheik" tree-house? 

To be clear, I intend to follow the code and do it only if it is allowed. The reason why I called it a shed is, I did not have another word for it. These days I see tiny homes, pre-fab homes that dont cost as much as an ADU does. I am sure some people want to live in these otherwise there won't be a market around it. Asking in this forum is part of my diligence and research. Based on the responses here, it seems like my budget-friendly tiny home in the backyard for short-term rental purposes is not a viable idea.

Your making no sense here, to help here is the definition of ADU:

So is it an ADU, or a Shed?

You so NOT an ADU and that a shed, but then go on to describe an ADU. Are you just seeking to do an ADU, with the regulation of a Shed? Because that's a whole other conversation and head-slap.

And no, I don't think ANYONE want's to live in a Shed. And I don't know anyone who leases Shed's for occupancy of anything other than lawn equipment. These are human beings for Pete's sake! 

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I am thinking of building a shed in the backyard for rental purposes. I live in the bay area. 

If you are knowledgeable about various aspects I need to consider, please do share. 

This is not an ADU. I dont have the budget for building an ADU.

Is this a joke? 

Ok, let's get this straight. You want to build a SHED, and specifically NOT an ADU, it's gonna be a SHED, but you'll make it "cozy". And curious how feasible it is or what issues there could be.

Ok, here's one issues just off top of the head; IT'S A SHED! 

Who in their right-mind do you picture renting a "cozy shed"? 

Ok, not enough? Ok, let's roll play. Say your the head of city development, and someone comes in and says "Hey buddy, I was thinking, what if I house humans in my shed? yeah, like chickens, but for humans. But don't worry it will be "cozy". What-da-ya-think?"    If in those shoes my first thought is has this person taken there med's.    Next is am I being punked.     

Would you live in a "cozy" shed? Again, your making sure we all know you WON'T do an ADU, that it's a SHED....

Really.... a flipping shed.... why not a Yurt while were at it or maybe a "sheik" tree-house? 

Hey @Pal Sa, it is CA. Once someone gets in there, you could be stuck with someone just never leaving and never paying. It has happened before and I would think it would be more likely with an ADU like this

I didn't see your later posts. If you're going to comply with the code expect to spend a minimum of 200k . That's a low estimate.

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I am thinking of building a shed in the backyard for rental purposes. I live in the bay area. If you are knowledgeable about various aspects I need to consider, please do share. The high-level plan is to build a cozy shed with space to sleep and work and have a mini kitchen and toilet and shower. It has its own entrance. Ideally, I would like to rent it out on a short-term basis and if allowed on a long-term basis. If I can't rent it out, I will use it for my personal purposes. This is not an ADU. I dont have the budget for building an ADU.

Is it feasible and possible?

Can a shed have a toilet and shower?

Approximately how much does this project cost? How is the permit process for sheds?

Has anyone done this in the bay area successfully? I am in San Mateo County. 

I am confused about parking. I might have to let them parking in the driveway and I park one of ours near the curb. How did you all solve the parking problem? Do short-term renters have a car? They do most likely. I live in a suburb and public transportation is not close by.  There is plenty of street parking.  I wonder if neighbors are going to resist. 

Do I need to get a separate internet connection or upgrade the existing one and share wifi?

 Hi Pal,

Why not you sleep in the shed after fixing it up, and rent out the more desirable house for more money.

You would essentially be living free, just you, your microwave and a mini fridge, use a blue porta-potty and shower down at the gym, get water from the house spigot out back.

Then you would not even have to fix it up much, just enough to keep the spiders out.

How much more a whole house would rent for vs a shed, and maybe put up a wooden privacy fence, so the renters would not see you coming and going.

Tell them you are eccentric, or just like communing with nature.

Good Luck!

Why so sarcastic? I fully intend to make it liveable and comply with the code. If allowed, I would like to rent it out to interested people. What do you see so wrong in it? I am curious to know.  Is calling it a shed triggering the reaction? I see it as a tiny home. I dont know the right word for it.

I( was not being sarcastic, and I don't see it as wrong. I have no idea why you thought that, but I am being serious. Why not live in the small place and make big money renting out the big place. Fence the small place off so they kind of forget you are there.

I'm sure the main house will bring in much more money every month than a shed.

And in No.Cal. the weather is not Frostbite Minnesota.

Just my 2 cents