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All Forum Posts by: Kevin L Owens

Kevin L Owens has started 10 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: What comes first?

Kevin L Owens
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28

Hi CLE market & RE investors,

As I continue in my newbie status an area of confusion is the order of the buying process after doing the number crunching analysis & choosing some properties to compare for offers.

At what point (and costs) does a city or private certified house inspector check the house?  How and by what process are repair, rehab costs analyzed?  Would you send your contractor/repair crews to quote costs?  I imagine this happens before an offer, or does the offer have contingencies added to it about these costs?  I’d prefer to know all these costs and have the metrics calculated ahead of an offer and make the offer with it being on the table for a short period of time so my offer isn’t then shopped.

I believe an offer has contingencies just like a contract, but I don’t fully understand what goes on between the offer & the contract (which has its own contingencies).

Thanks for reading and considering my questions!

Kevin

Post: Structuring LLC and Holding LLC

Kevin L Owens
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28

Hi @Sarah Kensinger,  that’s Clint Coons company!  I watch his YouTube channel.  Can you ballpark an approximate cost they may charge for a parent or hub llc with a first property llc within or beneath it?  Thanks!

Post: Old lease with former owner vs. new lease new owner

Kevin L Owens
Pro Member
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28

Thank you everyone!

Post: Old lease with former owner vs. new lease new owner

Kevin L Owens
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Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28

Hi,

Any thoughts on maintaining existing lease agreements with current tenants versus using a lease particular to one’s own lease language, particularly if rent stays the same. I’m new to this and thinking that I’d want to get the current tenants, examine the previous owners lease with them making sure it speaks to my preferred management style.

Thanks,

Kevin

Post: Structuring LLC and Holding LLC

Kevin L Owens
Pro Member
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Jason Marino:

Hi Lexie,

What you are describing is a Hub and spoke structure. There is a Hub LLC that owns other LLCs. These spoke LLCs own properties. You could structure the Management and Membership of the spoke LLCs in different ways. The Member of the spoke LLC is normally the Hub LLC. The Manager can be you, or you could list the Hub LLC for this. This will depend on how you structured the Hub LLC. It is sometimes possible to get more anonymity for your spoke LLCs by using an anonymous Hub LLC as the Manager.


 Hi Jason,

In this structure, regarding the manager being oneself or the Hub LLC, how does that work if a property management company is being used? How does the banking or finance side of the structure look, does each LLC have its own bank accounts, checks, credit cards, other records and tax returns, or does all of that reside with the Hub LLC? I believe it is possible to structure LLCs for each property in such a way that a form 1120 is not needed and everything moves through the form 1040, is that correct?

Thank you,

Kevin

Post: So New to a Huge Industry!

Kevin L Owens
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28

He all, I posted a few days ago about my newbie status in learning REI. It's taken a while to reply to everyone, Thank you All! I am finding the industry a bit overwhelming and the amount I desire to learn even moreso. My basic hope is to acquire simple deals (residential) to rent and move into more residential and duplexes. I want to do that in my home area at first, Northeast Ohio, with a focus on a certain area around Cleveland 3 main hospital systems. Getting started is daunting as I am learning analysis and learning about hard money, etc. My work shifting and caregiving duties compound that but I am no less motivated. finding properties to analyze, then just doing so seems challenging enough, but then there is the prep to get it rented, vetting renters, setting up the lease, and everything else that I am missing that I don't even know yet. I am wading through it and reading many books on the math analysis and REI. I am looking forward to actually picking a property to analyze and then picking a property. thanks for reading and for any input!! Best Regards to all, Kevin

Post: New to Investing

Kevin L Owens
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28
This is exactly my interest!  Learning how to start which for me would likely begin with a property and just doing an analysis for practice.  I absolutely know the area I want to buy in and to whom to market, which is my hometown area around the main hospital systems here.  Thank you

Quote from @Nicolas Looman:

@Kevin L Owens I would just start with a couple of calculators in investing strategies that you find interesting. Go online for an active property and pretend you're buying it! What does your cap look like? what do premium market rents look like? Is this by a hospital? Could you do short term rental for traveling nurses. The best thing about investing is that you have the freedom to know that you are the boss and there aren't any set paths you are forced to take to find your success. Everyone's journey is different and that is what makes the investment world so great.

Welcome to the hole you got sucked into. It's amazing and scary at the same time. Congrats!


Post: New to Investing

Kevin L Owens
Pro Member
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Kevin L Owens:

Thank you for this great reply!   I am trying to find NETWORK at the top of my screen but am not locating it.  Is it part of BP?

Thanks again!

Go to NETWORK at the top of your screen and you can search for other investors and investment groups in your area. You can also check meetup.com or search facebook for real estate investment groups, clubs, or meetings in your area.

A mentor can really accelerate your growth, no matter what level you're currently at. They can sharpen skills you already have, or expose you to things you've never even thought of. Unfortunately, a good mentor isn't always easy to find.

Think about it. You're asking someone to spend a lot of time and energy to share what they've spent years - maybe decades - learning and developing. That's a lot to ask of a complete stranger! Why would they want to invest in you? How do they know their investment will not be wasted? What can you offer in return?

You are far more likely to find a mentor through in-person networking and building relationships. The mentor will have an opportunity to know you, see your determination and will, and then decide to pour their time and energy into helping you develop. Go to NETWORK at the top of your screen and search for other investors and investment groups in your area. You can also check meetup.com or search facebook for real estate investment groups, clubs, or meetings in your area. Start building relationships and looking for someone to partner with.

How to find a mentor
Not every successful person will make a good mentor. Not every good mentor is a good mentor for you. Here are a few things to look for:

1. They should have current experience and plenty of it
2. A love for real estate investing
3. A desire and ability to share their knowledge
4. The ability to speak the hard truth with empathy

It doesn't matter how good a mentor is: if they don't mesh with you personally, it's going to be a disaster. That's why I stress the importance of building a relationship first. You need someone that clicks with you personally before engaging in a mentor/mentee relationship with the dedication and stress that may be involved.

Where to find a mentor
Start by looking within your existing network. Do you have a family member or friend that's achieved what you want to achieve? Remember, it doesn't need to be Grant Cardone! As a beginner, you can learn a lot from your uncle with a few rentals in another state or a co-worker that's on their second house hack. Make a list and start looking closely at each one to see if they are an option.

If you can't find someone within your network, expand your network. This entails building personal / working relationships with people successful in the field. You could do this in the BiggerPockets forum, but it's hard to build relationships with people from other states behind a keyboard. Get out and rub elbows with local investors by joining a real estate investor group in your area. Even if you have to travel a couple hours, you have a much better chance of finding someone.

How to approach a mentor
Once you've found a likely candidate, it's time to reach out and ask. Some tips:

1. Have a goal. Let them know - as specifically as possible - what you are trying to achieve. If you walked up to Michael Jordan and said, "I want to be learn sports" he would walk away. If you told him you have been playing pickup games for the past year and need help improving your jump shot, now he has evidence you're motivated and a specific goal he can quickly help you work towards. Example: "I would like to build financial independence through real estate investing. I'm not sure what the right path is, but I've been reading about investing in owner-occupied, multi-family properties. I've crunched the numbers and if I could purchase three four-plexes in the next ten years, that would give me the financial independence I'm looking for."

2. Make a short list of questions to ask. Even though they are the expert, you still need to ensure they are a good fit for you. This is an opportunity for you to confirm they have the expertise you need. You don't want to start a relationship to learn about storage units and then find out they only invest in single-family homes.

3. Practice your pitch! How you approach the mentor demonstrates how you will approach real estate investing. If you don't do the homework, you will give them the impression you may not be up to the task of doing the homework with real estate investing. You should be able to express your goal in one minute and then expand if questions are asked. It sounds cheesy, but the best way to prepare is to work with a friend or two and role play. Think about what questions the potential mentor may ask and how you would answer. Practice these answers until they roll of the tongue. Be prepared to demonstrate what you've learned so far and how hard you will work to put their advice to work. This is a two-way interview, so have a short list of questions to ask the mentor (What books do you recommend I read to gain a better understanding? What, specifically, would you recommend my first step be? How can I help you achieve your goals in exchange for you helping me?)

4. Know how to take constructive criticism. A smooth sea never produced a skilled sailor (Franklin D. Roosevelt). You will make mistakes. You won't understand something and need it beaten into your head ten times. If you feel they're being too harsh, think about their intent. Maybe they communicate differently but have good intentions. If they're not challenging you, or your personalities just don't mesh, be prepared to give them honest feedback. Let them know if they're not a good fit and you need to move on.

5. Pay them back. A successful investor's time may be worth hundreds of dollars per hour. They're willing to share it with you for free, so try to find ways to pay them back. I've heard of mentees that started out cleaning up construction areas on a flip at the end of each work day or picking up supplies at Home Depot and delivering them to the job site. Some mentees will act as a bloodhound for the mentor, knocking on doors, driving for dollars, scouring the internet, making cold calls, or performing other services that help the mentor find new deals. Your mentor has needs; try to meet them and develop a mutually beneficial relationship.

A mentor can be very beneficial to your growth, but it's not as simple as one post on a forum full of strangers. Put in the effort, build relationships, prove your value, and improve your odds of finding someone to help launch you on your path.


Post: New to Investing

Kevin L Owens
Pro Member
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28



Quote from @Joshua Filkill:
Quote from @Kevin L Owens:

I am a 31 year career law enforcement professional interested in investing ahead of and throughout retirement.  Looking to connect with potential mentors to help along the journey.

Thank you.

Kevin


 Welcome to BP! I'm a realtor and investor in the Columbus/Cleveland markets. Let me know if you have any questions.

Good luck!

Hi, I have so many questions!  I feel like I’m at a place to pull things together and am just not sure how to start crunching numbers on potential properties.


thank you


Post: New to Investing

Kevin L Owens
Pro Member
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Northeast, OH
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 28

I am a 31 year career law enforcement professional interested in investing ahead of and throughout retirement.  Looking to connect with potential mentors to help along the journey.

Thank you.

Kevin