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All Forum Posts by: Tanner Morrill

Tanner Morrill has started 11 posts and replied 75 times.

Post: New to Airbnb Arbitrage

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20
Originally posted by @Conner Olsen:

@Jana Crum check out Julian Sage. He's got great content on Youtube!

 Julian is very beginner focused. I find his content too fluffy. AirBnb Automated on youtube (Sean Rakidtich) is much denser information and covers stuff I see no one else covering. 

Post: New to Airbnb Arbitrage

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20
Originally posted by @Clay Massey:

@Janea Crum

I do not have experience in the arbitrage side of the STR world. I do manage vacation rentals and the time and effort you are going to put into finding your deals (leases) which you are financially responsible for, I highly advise you start researching the actual property management business side of thing and manage other people's real estate for a chunk of the gross revenue with no financial risk. Find 7-10 properties that gross 30-50k/year and you make potentially six figures without being responsible for paying the rent. You might even find yourself managing a luxury home or two and providing concierge services as another arm of the business

Build a housekeeping team, and even a maintenance person and find yourself as a 3rd party service provider for other management companies etc…

Plenty of second home owners that are frustrated with their current manager and looking for a new refreshing option. Just my perspective. Good luck!

Good points. I do arbitrage. I like having creative control over the interior design and taking all the upside. I have to train someone else in my business to step out of it and make it passive, or hire a property manager who hopefully manages as well as me. I'm opening to managing for others so I can build my own management arm and do arbitrage too. 

Post: New to Airbnb Arbitrage

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20
Originally posted by @Axel Meierhoefer:

@Jana Crum Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by AirBnB arbitrage, but to @Dave Stokley point, if I want to invest in Phoenix or Scottsdale (which I might like) and I live far away (which I do) I would like an STR partner to do all the STR-work, for let's say 20% or maybe 25% of the gross rent.

I would want for the person to be local and have some experience in renting STR at least her own place, ideally also including a few rental/investment properties. I would also expect a clearly defined system that is used for the STR work.

As an investor, I can see how that would be mutually beneficial if done and organized well.

Sounds like you just want an STR manager (or cohost), not someone to just pay you flat rent and give you none of the upside (or risk).

Post: Cap rates in Clarksville, Huntsville & Chattanooga

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20

thanks, both of you! If you have commercial lenders in that area I'm open to that connection. Thanks!

Post: Cap rates in Clarksville, Huntsville & Chattanooga

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20

Hey BP friends, I'm working on getting to know Chattanooga, Clarksville & Huntsville MF markets to wholesale great deals. Can anybody put me in touch with great commercial lenders and info about MF cap rates in these areas? Thanks!

Post: Chattanooga Cap rates

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20

Hey BP friends, I'm working on getting to know Chattanooga SFH and MF markets to wholesale great deals. Can anybody put me in touch with a great commercial lender and info about MF cap rates? Thanks!

Post: Port Aransas Texas Property managers

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20

1) Typical property management. 2) Have you insisted on triple sheeting? (see youtube) It's the only way to go in my opinion. Most cleaners wash comforters very rarely (even in hotels), so this really helps. 3) Properly app requires photos after every cleaning, which might help. 4) Thank you for sharing your frustration so I can be a better 3rd party manager myself. 

Post: First-Time STR. How do you manage remotely??

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20

Some housekeeping companies will do all the ground work for you. They probably won't be the cheapest service though. That would be my strategy. Properly is an app that shows (with photos) what housekeepers have done each cleaning. If you can get some trusted professionals like handymen on your team than you should be set. Maybe find a local long-term property manager who already has a team in place. 

Post: What does your PM charge for Airbnb?

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20

All STR property managers I've heard directly from charge 20 percent gross revenue (which can be calculated slightly differently if they include cleaning and service fees and taxes), but I've heard of 10-50 percent.

Post: How do people find Airbnbs to Rental Arbitrage?

Tanner MorrillPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Nashville & Salt Lake City
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 20

Thomas, it's interesting how real estate investing and hospitality have began to blend in the last few years. I believe"arbitrage" takes a lot of similar skills as wholesaling. If you systematize your business I believe you can step away from the daily management, just like these giant companies have done (Sonder). I'm happy to partner with you on something or just talk about what's working and not working.