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All Forum Posts by: Osazee Edebiri

Osazee Edebiri has started 15 posts and replied 315 times.

Post: SF Bay Area Housing Prices Suffer Largest OneMonth Drop On Record

Osazee Edebiri
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  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Jim Spatzenfeld:

So now it’s only 1.4 million instead of 1.5 million for an old rotten 3BR / 1 bath shack along the freeway? Let me take 5 please, or no, make it a dozen, it’s a heck of a deal!

This makes me think of when they use to say “ride the dip” in relation to crypto.

Post: SF Bay Area Housing Prices Suffer Largest OneMonth Drop On Record

Osazee Edebiri
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  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Russell Brazil:
Quote from @Osazee Edebiri:
Quote from @Russell Brazil:

San Francisco is a cyclical market. It has large run ups, then receeds a little, then large run ups again. Always been that way.


 I would assume most metropolitan areas look like this. Although as a person who has lived in the Bay my whole life except school, I would say you know the world has truly gone to sh*t if the San Jose market crashes. Every up and down I watch and it seems untouchable.


 Neither of the 3 major metro areas on the east coast I invest in look like this. DC, Boston, Charlotte. I also know that NYC does not look like that...NYC though you can basically overlay a stock market chart onto the housing chart and it looks pretty similar.

Other markets that do look like San Francisco's cyclical nature would be Phoenix and Las Vegas.


 That's interesting, aside from NY what makes the cities similar and different in their cycles?

Post: SF Bay Area Housing Prices Suffer Largest OneMonth Drop On Record

Osazee Edebiri
Posted
  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Osazee Edebiri:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Robin Simon:

Failing city, not indicative of national market in my view

 The study covers 6 counties. But yes, San Fran is a very failed city. I used to love visiting, now I don't want to step over human feces and drug needles or get shot or stabbed.


same with LAX Seatac PDX same issues unfortunately.  
Hence why a lot of people moved to the suburbs during the pandemic, especially with work from home.

3 to 7 years ago it was all about walk score  now you hardly ever hear it mentioned.. I know for us we are building 90 homes in the suburb of Portland right now ( Canby) and its just exploded and almost half of my buyers are moving from inner city.. the empty nesters they have tired of the social issues.  On top of that at least in PDX many of the fine dining resturants that attracted folks from the suburbs have closed and opened in the suburbs  my little city of Lake Oswego has seen about 5 of the top PDX resturants relocate to new commerical developments no longer have to drive down town. Kind of nice really

 Congratz on the 90, definitely have my sights set for those kind of goals. The city's will eventually get their acts together for the Bay I am mainly speaking to SF, then Oakland. Let's not forget there is this statistic that says SF has the most billionaires living in it in the world. (People seem to debate whether that includes pinnsula cities.)

These are places people want to live, how long it takes to correct or at least make better who knows.

Post: SF Bay Area Housing Prices Suffer Largest OneMonth Drop On Record

Osazee Edebiri
Posted
  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Russell Brazil:

San Francisco is a cyclical market. It has large run ups, then receeds a little, then large run ups again. Always been that way.


 I would assume most metropolitan areas look like this. Although as a person who has lived in the Bay my whole life except school, I would say you know the world has truly gone to sh*t if the San Jose market crashes. Every up and down I watch and it seems untouchable.

Post: SF Bay Area Housing Prices Suffer Largest OneMonth Drop On Record

Osazee Edebiri
Posted
  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Robin Simon:

Failing city, not indicative of national market in my view

 The study covers 6 counties. But yes, San Fran is a very failed city. I used to love visiting, now I don't want to step over human feces and drug needles or get shot or stabbed.


same with LAX Seatac PDX same issues unfortunately.  
Hence why a lot of people moved to the suburbs during the pandemic, especially with work from home.

Post: SF Bay Area Housing Prices Suffer Largest OneMonth Drop On Record

Osazee Edebiri
Posted
  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154

Tells me it's a good time to buy.

Just like that very short dip our Bay Area market had at the very beginning of the pandemic

Post: Should I sell or rent out my condo?

Osazee Edebiri
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  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Kevin Maher:

Get out now the market is turning. Reduce asking and break even.better than losing more if you wait.

 I like your idea of @Becca F. renting to mid-term renters, but saying the market is turning and she get out is contradictory to that. She really should only sell if she feels she can get a better return on her investment moving the funds into another property.

Also, even if the market is potentially turning, what do you believe it is turning to @Kenna De Guzman? Because if it turns won't that mean rents would go up since less people can buy homes?

Post: Should I sell or rent out my condo?

Osazee Edebiri
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  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Becca F.:

@Taylor L.

Thanks for the reply. I don't believe the HOA has rental restrictions but I will double check. About 30% of the units are rentals. The Bay Area has been in a seller's market since 2018 (when I moved here) with the market peaking in 2019 for condos. I had to bid over another buyer for that unit. Homes would get multiple offers with sometimes the first day they hit the market with buyers waiving inspections and appraisals. It's not uncommon for all cash offers. A 3 bedroom 2 bath single family home is around $800,000. So condos were in the $750,000 (for a 3 bedroom) and under range.Condos were getting offers within 2 weeks if it was in a highly desired area or renovated condition up until late March/early April 2022. It slowed down considerably when the interest rates increased and condos seem the hardest hit, although home prices are still high even with the price reductions. Many condos are on market for 30 days or longer now. People who have lived in their homes for a long time, prior to 2008-2010 saw their homes appreciate a lot so they do well financially when selling or renting it out at market rate.

My goal is not to keep losing money every month. $2300 is a large amount of money to be out each month and now I'm making double mortgage payments (my current home and this condo) in addition to my rental property in the Midwest (which is cash flowing so renters are paying my mortgage payment) and a HELOC payment (HELOC used for a renovation on a California rental). If I leave the condo vacant the city of Oakland has a $3000 vacancy tax a year. I need sales proceeds in the short term and could probably do 6 months more of monthly payments but that will sting financially.


You clearly know more than you are giving yourself credit for in some of your previous posts. To me this is more of a math equation since your condo is in a good part of Oakland. ROE and ROI of keeping vs. renting it. Calculate those numbers to give you a method of making a decision that is less emotion and more objective based.

Post: Invest with Ace vs. Sam Primm Faster Freedom mentorship program

Osazee Edebiri
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  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @James Wilcox:
Quote from @Becca F.:

I've been following Elliott@Invest with Ace for a while now and Sam Primm on Instagram recently. Invest with Ace's spreadsheets look really clean. He offers his spreadsheets and information in a la carte form.  I attended Sam Primm's webinar and was on a call with one of his reps. He talked about using private lenders to help fund rental property purchases and using the BRRRS (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Scale) method. With the mentorship program, the private lender (Sam in this case) would lend me the money to buy a distressed property, then the rehabbed property would be appraised and then the lender/bank would give a loan based on 75% to 85% of the appraised value. Someone would hand hold me with buying properties with the mentorship program.

I've heard a lot about using Other People's Money such as private lenders and hard money loans. I currently own 2 rental properties with one that is cash flowing and one that I just recently renovated - I'll have a renter in there soon but will need more tenants so that I can see a good amount of cash flow. I'd like to expand my portfolio but finding properties is difficult and I don't know if a bank would approve me for anymore loans and right now I don't have the cash to put 25% down on more investment property. I own property in the San Francisco Bay Area and my current rental that's cash flowing is in the Midwest - definitely think that the Midwest is great for being a landlord whereas California is more friendly to tenants. 

Is it worth the money to go through a mentorship program? What the the pros and cons of using private lenders? What's the difference of hard money loans and private lender money? Has anyone gone through the Faster Freedom mentorship? 

 @Becca F. seems like you really are not going to take as much away from these programs since you are already in the REI game. I agree with @Osazee Edebiri if I am catching his point correctly, that you need to worry less about the next best step and just focus on taking it one step at a time. Anything you have questions about that you have listed above can be found on BP using the search feature. I once closed a deal that "Ace" could not close because it was in my target area (knowledge) and I listened to what the sellers wanted. I didn't lowball them in a wholesalers shotgun approach and scored a great deal. Doesn't make these "gurus" bad necessarily but I would just take it with a grain of salt as they say. I also talked to him once on the phone and he seemed to want to boast more about his REI ego than about a deal and listening. Seems like a red flag to me.


 I agree.

Post: Invest with Ace vs. Sam Primm Faster Freedom mentorship program

Osazee Edebiri
Posted
  • Realtor
  • San Jose, CA
  • Posts 318
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Becca F.:

Hi Osazee,

Ace's course program is $495 and he offers products a carte such as a spreadsheet to analyze potential rentals for $40. Sam's program is $6000 and has lifetime access to his video courses. That's very pricey and I could use $6000 towards a downpayment on a property. Both of them have a lot of free videos on Instagram and Sam has many videos on YouTube. I'm still getting used to all the terminology: CAP rate, cash on cash return, DSCR (debt service coverage ratio) and how to analyze properties.

I pulled out money from a cash flowing rental (did a cash out refinance) to help me pay for a major renovation for a single family home. I also did a HELOC against this property owned free and clear. I didn't want to finance it but if I didn't my savings account would have taken a bit hit - the renovation cost a lot more than the original estimate since all the electrical wiring was old. I will have one tenant in soon and will need to get some roommates for my tenant in order to start cash flowing paying off the HELOC. I'm looking to possibly do future purchases in Indiana since I already have a property manage there. I've also heard Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee are also good markets. With California I'm thinking Central Valley past Tracy into Modesto or Fresno (I don't know anything about those areas and if they are good rental markets, just brainstorming).

I'm seeing a lot of investors say they use Other People's Money, which is usually private lenders or hard money loans. The private lenders gives them a loan, do the rehab, rent it out then refinance at the appraised value of the home (mortgage would be about 75% to 85% of appraised value). This seems to work well with lower priced properties like in the Midwest or the South in the below $200,000 range so pretty much nothing in the Bay Area. I was messaging a realtor and he had a motivated seller in the East Bay (San Pablo) but the house was $649,000 - I saw the pictures but didn't see the house in person but it look like a house with a lot of potential. That would be a lot of money to finance. I'm also concerned with being over leveraged. If I have too many loans, won't a bank say no? How are investors financing 20 properties? If the tenants don't pay the rent or major repair costs come up, isn't that risky? 

Thanks for your help.

Hey Becca,

You have a lot of questions going there. What I am seeing is you are just trying to figure out your next best and want to make sure it’s the right course of action.I don’t think you need to pay the programs to tell you what to do since you clearly already have investments.

Just take the funds you have currently and figure what’s the best ROI you can get with one of the strategies you mentioned above that you can actually make happen. 

As far as the loans, there are ways to figure that out and come up with strategies.

I sent you a message.