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All Forum Posts by: Rich Hupper

Rich Hupper has started 227 posts and replied 1232 times.

Post: Brokering Off Market properties for Investors and Builders

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346
Quote from @Marian Huish:

Since no Agent receives compensation prior to the deal closing, I don’t follow how what you’re doing as any different @Rich Hupper?Are you disclosing what that compensation will be at the end of the day as a percentage? Are you assigning contracts and taking your cut there? Different states have restrictions against wholesaling by brokers. Whom are you representing? Not sure what the agency laws are in MA but generally, you need to represent one party or the other or perhaps both if dual agency is allowed. Also, regarding the NAR Settlement outcome, as a broker, you are required to have a buyer agency agreement prior to showing any property in order to receive compensation at closing. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question? It also just seems you are discrediting listing agents without knowing the full extent of what services they are providing to their clients. I also find off marker properties, find buyers and help the clients to prep the property, including clearing, cleaning, dealing with tenants, handle showings, inspections, qualify buyers and connect them with a title company who holds this deposit handles, title, work, etc.


 I disclose to both parties I work as a facilitator and present the agency disclosure. I also disclose to the sellers I make money after the buyer renovates the property because they give me the listing, so there's no need for me to charge the seller. 

It still baffles me that some sellers want a sellers broker when I already have a buyer for their property, and they have their own attorney representation. 

Post: Brokering Off Market properties for Investors and Builders

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346
Quote from @Aaron Lawrence:

Could be that the sellers are still suspicious you have some ulterior motive or bias (not saying you do). 

Have you considered charging some small fee to both sides to further prove to the seller you're not in the business of taking advantage of them? If I were in the seller's shoes, it would be reasonable to think "no one works for free... what's this guy's angle" and then go out and hire my own agent.


Could be % or flat. The main idea is maybe you could head these inefficiencies off and proactively build trust by putting skin in the game by formalizing your relationships and position in the deal. 


 You could probably be right with this. Charge both sides a small fee and just act in the facilitator capacity I already do. 

I do disclose to the seller I make money when the final product is done that is why I am not charging a fee to either side. However perhaps some sellers feel a bit of comfort having a broker on "their side".

Post: Brokering Off Market properties for Investors and Builders

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346
Quote from @Obed Calixte:

What responses have you received from the sellers in response to them procuring a broker to represent them in the deal?

That's the only way you'll get real answers. 

I can list a number of assumptions but they will hold no water. 

I have not asked the sellers for their logic behind the decision, I just go with it. Do you see this happening in your experience procuring off market deals to your investors?

Post: Brokering Off Market properties for Investors and Builders

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346

Hi fellow agents and brokers.

Most of my work is finding off market properties for myself or investors. When cold calling an off market decision maker I let them know I have a buyer for their property and ask if we can set up a time to see it. 

I do not ask for a fee from the buyer or the seller in order to keep the net high for the seller and the costs low for the buyer. Trying to keep things as simple as possible. In full disclosure to both parties I let them know I am compensated at the end when the final product is realized and brought to market.

If the deal comes together I always make sure the sellers have their own attorney in the mix to hold deposits and represent them on the sale.


What I am finding is sellers are hiring their own brokers and paying them commissions for doing next to nothing. 

If the seller has attorney counsel why would they feel compelled to pay a commission to a broker for doing nothing when I have already produced a ready willing and qualified buyer that can close quickly and keep the transaction very straight forward?

I had one seller inject a seller side broker and pay them 35k commission for doing nothing except holding deposits. 

What am I missing here?

I position myself as a facilitator for both parties. My investor buyers are fine with that. Perhaps the sellers are not?

Should I be looking for a fee from the buyers when a seller injects a broker into the deal, that does nothing?

Thank you

Post: Beginner looking for advice

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346
Quote from @Jerome Boudreaux:

@Rich Hupper thank you for the advice my primary goal is getting that PHD right here in the forums! 


 This website is where I learned almost everything I know about lead generation, I primarily do cold calling or direct mail. I focus on quality not quantity. I dont call hundreds of leads a day or mail thousands of letters. Whenever I cold call someone I am cold calling the decision maker or someone close to the decision maker, who might be able to put me in touch with them. 

Understanding exactly who is the decision maker for property is not as simple as looking through the assessor records. You need to learn how to research title. Some states have most of the title records digitized available for the public others do not. 

Post: Beginner looking for advice

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346

To start you need money, Your money or someone elses. You also need the deal. If you are not finding good deals money wont find you.

If you earn a decent wage and are credit worthy you can start investing by house hacking a multi family with a low down payment mortgage.

If you have no money or credit your best best is start finding deals and bringing them to other investors who have money. You could whole sale these deals or you could broker them if you have a broker license. Or you could attempt to get on title with the investor as a partner in the deal. However if you are bringing no equity to the deal they might scoff at the idea.

The other thing you could do is find someone who trusts you who has money and wants to lend it. ( Private Money ). Find deals and use the private money to purchase  and flip them. If you do a good job and make the private lender happy they will want to do this again.

Then there's seller financing which you see a lot with businesses, and commercial property. Residential usually the sellers are not savvy enough to go this route and usually just want their check at closing.

In the end it all boils down to finding the deals.... thats not easy. Sometimes you need to follow up with a decision maker for years before they are ready to sell.

Are you okay cold calling people? You need to be. You need to be able to talk with strangers over the phone or in person to build rapport. 

Finding deals can be done numerous ways but I suggest you just start reading bigger pockets for a few months to start. Don't do anything but read bigger pockets. Then you can buy a few books if you want but most of the information is here.

There are thousands of people here who have shared libraries worth of information for free.

You can get a phd in real estate right here if you read all the forums.

Post: Will Population Decline Affect Housing?

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346

Its interesting which countries have low birth rates and which countries do not. 

Post: Looking for a Wholesale Mentor

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346

Real estate dealings is about picking up the phone and making connections with decision makers. Most of the time they are not ready to sell so put them on a follow up schedule. 90% of the time its about talking to them at the right time.

Post: Probate Letters of Authority

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346

In my state after the court and estate nominate a personal representative to administer the estate the court issues them letters of authority. I was lead to believe this gave the PR the license to sell any assets and pay beneficiaries. 

Is this incorrect? Is there another document the personal representative needs from the court to sell assets?

Post: Corporate Transparency Act

Rich HupperPosted
  • Broker / Investor
  • Tewksbury, MA
  • Posts 1,261
  • Votes 346

Just got word from my accountant about this new legislation. I have several LLCs that I need to register with Fincen now. Are there big penalties for not registering?

Beneficial owners of my LLCs can all be found publicly on the secretary of state website so I don't understand why I need to register everything at Fincen.