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All Forum Posts by: O'brian R.

O'brian R. has started 9 posts and replied 143 times.

Post: Buy & Hold partnerships?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

Thanks for sharing your thoughts @Jerry Padilla and @Curtis Bidwell. Both are good perspectives to consider. 

Post: Buy & Hold partnerships?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

This has been a great thread! Truly appreciate the experience being shared @Curtis Bidwell!

I often hear mixed advice in regards to taking on partners. 

In my case, since I'm a pretty new buy and hold investor, I've often been advised to continue to acquire properties on my own and exhaust all of my capital/financing resources first before taking on a partner. This is a slow and steady approach that I've been using so far to get my first 2 properties.

On the other hand, taking on a partner who could split the down payment & rehab funds would greatly accelerate my plan to grow my real estate portfolio. Yes, profits would be cut in half for each deal, but long term I think there'd be many more deals with greater potential. 

Assuming the partner is a trusted hardworking fellow who shares the same goals, skills,  and work ethic, I'm curious as to whether it's wise to exhaust my own resources and creative strategies (i.e. like a cash out refinance since I don't have more than 4 properties) first before entering into any partnerships. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Post: Joint Venture

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

All good points @Bill Gulley Not to mention that the secured note would make the deal more attractive to friends lending the money. 

Post: Joint Venture

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50
Originally posted by @Arthur Banks:

@O'Brian (for whatever reason, I can't @ you)  But I did not set up anything with my parents.  They had their money tied up in a business with my sister.

 No worries Arthur. The @ feature is finicky. 

Post: Joint Venture

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50
Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:

Fine in the family, but friends? Need to look at SEC regs selling interests of a company, and unsecured, regardless of who they give money to, you or the company, setting the interests over to an investor is selling stock ownerships.

Need to talk to an accountant, allow them in the company and keep their money in their capital account, then they contribute to deals from that account and they can take an interest according to their contributions, but don't buy notes this way, just RE. 

That goes for family too, really, the LLC owns the property. A note and deed of trust or loan is not needed when the LLC owns the property, the accounting of the capital accounts sets the degree of ownership (or can) and the operating agreement sets the liabilities and profits between members.

Also, this is not a DIY thing to do, begin by doing it right, see an accountant and your business/RE attorney. Good luck :) 

Bill, so what if as an investor I'm looking to get a personal loan from friends to fund real estate purchases in my own name and not in an LLC? I've done one personal loan from family and just used an unsecured promissory note to document that loan.

Post: Joint Venture

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@Arthur Banks This is an older thread, but I was wondering whether you set up a partnership with your parents or just accepted a personal loan from them. Update?

Post: LA Meetup - February 28th, 2015

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

@Jon Huber Count me in as well. Looking forward to it!

Post: 1st WHOLESALE DEAL DONE!!!!!!!

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

Congrats Robert! Very successful and fast for your 1st campaign. Keep the momentum rolling!

Post: Still "Community property" for CA couple purchasing out of state?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

Thanks @Bill Gulley 

Post: Refinance - too good to be true?

O'brian R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Redondo Beach, CA
  • Posts 147
  • Votes 50

Thanks @Albert Bui for the great explanation. 

As an update, refinance has been completed. Had minimal cost to bring to the table...your "No closing" costs scenario.