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All Forum Posts by: Noah Davis

Noah Davis has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Noah Davis

Thank you for your reply. 

Quote from @Jeff Copeland:

Most financing in real estate works more or less the same way. Whether it's conventional, commercial, private, hard money, or seller financing, the paperwork and terms are generally spelled out in a mortgage and a promissory note (see: https://www.biggerpockets.com/... for a deeper dive). 

That being said, most real estate loans are somewhere between 50% and 80% loan-to-value, meaning the lender wants you to have skin in the game. Using 75% LTV as an example: The lender puts up 75%, and they expect you to put up 25% (as well as have sufficient income from the property, income from other sources, cash reserves, and good credit). 

There's not a lot of appetite for "loaning you the down payment" from most lenders. Perhaps friends and family...but keep reading. 

If you don't have any capital (not even then down payment), it becomes much more difficult to buy real estate. I'm not saying it's impossible (there are books on the subject sold here on BP), but it is much more difficult. 

You might consider bringing in an equity partner (investor), rather than a debt partner (lender). That scenario might look more like the following:

You (Partner A) bring the expertise, time, and hands on management to the table.

Partner B brings capital (cash money, assets, credit history, etc) to the table. 

The two of you form a partnership. This can be structured any number of ways, but let's call it A&B Partners LLC, and let's say it's set up with you as a 30% partner and B as a 70% partner. 

Your LLC buy's a $1M building. Your LLC owns the building. You own 30% of the LLC.

The LLC's operating agreement will dictate how monthly and annual cash flow and distributions, asset disposal, etc are handled. To keep things simple, it might say "all profit is split 70/30, with an quarterly distribution, and all capital gains are split 70/30".

So each partner would get a quarterly distribution based on net profit. And when you sell the asset 5 years later for $2M, you'd take a $300k gain, and B would take a $700k gain (of the $1M capital gain...$2M sale less the $1M basis). 

In this scenario, B is not getting "paid back". Rather, he or she is an equity partner and benefits (in the form of quarterly distributions and a nice capital gain) from you doing the leg work on the property. 

If you won the lottery and wanted to buy out B, you could purchase all or part of their share and increase your ownership percentage. 

Thank you for your reply. This helps a lot. 

Hello everyone.

I was introduced to the real estate investing/entrepreneurship lifestyle later in my education. I was already enrolled in my master's program when I learned about this whole other world and what success meant. Thanks to my mentor, who introduced me to real estate investing and has led me in my real estate investing education.

I graduate with my master's in May of 2023, and I have spent three years getting my degree, but also educating myself in this business by reading books, listening to podcasts, and creating relationships. Therefore, my goals are very specific. Upon graduating, I plan to move home to be closer to my family and immediately house hack 3-4 unit building. Then move to a 6-8 unit building to have a total of 9-12 units to develop a system. Once the system is developed, I plan to scale more prominent and get a 20-36 unit apartment building. I believe all this is feasible considering the three years of education I have put into real estate and my mentor giving me advice along the way.

With me saying all this, I have one question that I have not been able to get a clear answer to in the books or podcasts I have listened to. I believe it's a simple question and should not be hard to answer, but it presents a challenge for a rookie like me. Buying an apartment building with 20+ units will likely present a challenge considering the average person cannot afford it. Therefore, I will likely have to use private money to fund the deal or at least the 20-25% down payment. My question is, what is the best way to pay the private money lender back? Is it as simple as refinancing your property in a year, or is there something else?

Any information or insight would be appreciated, and thank you.