All Forum Posts by: Nick Sabat

@Lynn M. I am sure you have offered a suggestion in a caring manner - but this is a case all too often seen in the Real Estate Rental Business - you rent to someone and in moves a million other freeloaders.

They have their own incomes and spend it recklessly or not caring about much of anything but themselves. The parents loving as they are do not say anything and allow it to happen - that is, the children and their children leaching off them and taking advantage of them.

The landlord is well within her rights, raising the rent to a level she feels accommodates their use of her property. Too many people and too many pets in it. She probably feels sorry for the parents and is doing what the parents should have done - getting the daughter and her broad out. Or making it so costly so that they all go.

Again, it seems this person is asking a legal question and wants a legal answer: Can this landlord do this? Without the word legally, which no doubt can be assumed. The best suggestion to this person is, pay up or get out. It should have been done years ago. No more taking advantage of the parents or the property owner - time is up. That's it in a nutshell.

Next, the answer is, the landlord did not have to offer an alternative - she could have just evicted the whole lot of them for whatever reason she wanted. Simply put! Sorry if this goes against yours or anyone else's grain.  And to suggest this woman go seeking any further answer to her not so legal question is asking for more trouble, in my opinion.

Here's a challenge - ask this poster how much she and her husband have saved up over 3 years living with her parents - if the answer is $2,000 or more, then her problems are solved, she has enough to go by the first. If not, then there is a really serious problem here and it ain't with the landlord raising the rent exorbitantly! Along with other reasons I stated, this person does not want to get legal on this landlord, she can just evict.

@Wes Brand  @Lynn M. - I really do not think this person wants to bring in any sort of Tenant Attorney. Going to get legal on this landlord can bring a lot of legal backlash to this poster.

Here are the assumptions - the parents rented a house/apartment - they got a one to two bedroom - assuming they are up there in the years, I do not see them getting any larger of a home. In moves the "adult child" with husband, kids and a dog - 3 years ago.

Now, the next thing is, these "grandchildren" are now 3 years older and under any law, if a boy and a girl, they must have their own separate rooms by now. Causing this landlord any type of legal grief may cause this woman to vamp up her game plan and that is to get this person, her husband, kids and her dog out of her property.

Note that the landlord raised the rent $300 dollars per month - means she is serious about getting paid or getting someone out of her property. She has other options, not used yet - bring in children protective services and county health inspectors. Something, I do not think this person/poster wants.

The best bet for this poster is - is to do what she should have done, 2 and one half years ago, secured her own place, with her own husband and kids and dog.

We all wanna save money or we all wanna blow it the way we can - but in this world we can't! There was or should have been four incomes, the mother and the father, original renters - the daughter and her husband. Let's assume minimum wage - $5 per hour, years ago and retirement checks - $650 3 years ago.

Rent, say $650 - that's the parents check(s). $40 a day, 21 days a month - $840 x 2 = $1680 a month. Outside of utilities, all disposable income. Who should have saved to get their own place? Sorry, no legal standing and again, this is not the route this poster wants to go - getting legal on someone.

I've been around the net for a long time - when forums and boards were just mere, IRC (Internet Rely Channel) rooms. I've even been kicked out of a few! :D

But, yes the more you chat or contribute, the more you meet people and ultimately become "friends" or colleagues. No doubt.

Me personally would like to build a team or teams - Attorney, CPA, Investors, Real Estate Broker, Title Search Company, etc., etc. in the Pittsburgh, PA area. My goal by the end of the year - to be quite successful in the Real Estate Market and in my construction business.

One question however, on your stats and awards, there is a place for referrals - how is it that one gets accredited for a referral? Just asking - I may have some friends that would be interested in joining and would like the credit for bringing them on board - this too is to help built my colleague list and references, if possible.

Note to Landlords: This is a caveat - I would say this is a case of free loading children. While the poster says she pays the parents rent, she doesn't say how - with the parents retirement income? Also, noted here is that the "landlord" said she was in the house "too long", which seems to me that there was a comment made about a "temporary stay" until the "adult child(ren)"  and their children and dog, found their own place.

I would think there was damage done, probably by the animals - either dander or feces or urine or even scratches to the doors or walls. Something happened. And with Adult Dependent Children, it is usual for them to be uncaring - the property is not theirs, they believe that a landlord has no legal basis to go after them. Not True.

You destroy anyone's property on the lease or not, you can be sued for destruction of personal or real property. The parents can also be held liable, for failing to stop such acts of vandalism. Like I said, just a note and a warning - when someone you rent too, moves someone else in, immediately raise the rent - put limits on how many pets are allowed and if, more are wanted or moved in, immediately ask for a larger pet security deposit.

I had this happen to me - I rented to an adult male, with an adopted son - a few months later, I noticed an older woman there. Then her daughter with her four children. My property started to get destroyed - I raised the rent and asked for a larger security deposit - he complied. When they moved out, I had a lot of work to do. 

What I should have done, is like someone pointed out - raised the rent so high as to make people want to go somewhere else immediately.

3 years - it seems to me, that something went wrong over the course of three years. Either the property is being damaged by animals or kids.

Personally, I think the landlord was more than reasonable. She could have raised the rent the minute you moved in. What is it you are not saying here?

Assuming she wants an additional pet deposit, I would say she smelled or saw something alarming and it caused her to wake up and do what she should have done years ago.

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Welcome to the board :D

Hire a Real Estate Broker or Management Company! In that small area or adjacent town.

Stupid mistakes - they happen all the time. The question is how do they? 

Well, the answer is simple - not paying attention and thinking about the things you do.

In this case, only a complete moron could not tell there was something wrong with where they put the garage door or driveway!

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@Joey Barnett - I think the technical term is "home automation" in case you are looking things up associated with it.

@Jason A. I like the phrase "connected home" cool

@Roy N. yes I think humidity control, temperature control, safety features as electronic locks are all key features. When dealing with apartment settings and the landlord is paying for utilities, controlling those things from a remote location is going to be tantamount.

Knowing what the tenant is using as far as energy when it is costing you, is how you can readjust your rental fees. Smoke and fire alarms are also a good feature to have hooked up "connected" to the home network - knowing that they can be tested @ any given moment will allow someone to know if there is a faulty item in the system - that can be replaced immediately and without fail.

I think currently - smoke/fire alarms should be manually tested on a monthly basis to insure they work properly. But whatever the interval, if you have a large apartment house, this can be time consuming and exhausting physically. Having a smart system installed can save time, physical energy and money.

The electric companies are installing "smart meters" which the can control from remote locations. They can turn them off and on at a flick of a switch. They can tell where there is leakage, "excessive use of energy" and report to the property owner.

Much will come of a smart house - I would imagine the ideas are endless.