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All Forum Posts by: Nick Poe

Nick Poe has started 1 posts and replied 8 times.

They were great to talk with. In fact, they were super appreciate that I called to make sure everything was kosher. 

@Ben Haab, appreciate that feeback very much! The home is in R2 and a duplex is allowable. Chatted with city zoning about it. I will have to split the address, the previous guy who owned the property and rented it out did not take care of that. Otherwise, it's good to go. 

I have chewed on the cap gains tax that we'd be paying. I suppose I could always use a 1031 exchange when the time comes, if I don't need the liquid cash. And frankly, paying a long term cap gains decades from now might not be so bad if I've juiced the thing for monthly cash flow for 30 years. 

Thank you very much for your feedback. Local help is the best help.

@James Bausch Thank you for that perspective. Honestly I’m looking at growing the portfolio. I’m never gonna be a mogul or build an empire-but I’d like to build a comfy equity in several properties and have enough cash flow from properties to retire with confidence one day. I’m focused on the long term but at the same time I don’t want to be crippled or overly leveraged I’m the short term. 

We usually are in Europe for at least a month out of the year every year, so a property management company may be a good solution. Who do you recommend? 

@James Bausch thank you! I’ve met dean a couple times. Will check out his meet up thank you! 

Did anything every come of this? I'm based out of Warsaw and would love a meetup.

Originally posted by @Timothy Hero:

If you're not in a tough financially position, I'd rent it out for 1-2 years. Let the tenant pay down the mortgage to increase equity and market appreciation to factor in. Maybe get an extra $10k for free after a year between the tenant and appreciation.

This is an excellent point, thank you for your input! I'll certainly be taking this into account.

Originally posted by @Frank Chin:

I've done real estate investing since the 1980's, and had one or two businesses while at it. For a while my wife is a stay at home mom.

Given your situation, I would hold it. I tried flips and it's more time consuming than a buy and hold situation, particularly if you want to make money in the long run. You constantly have to look for deals, then do the rehab, then find buyers. And when my wife is a stay at home mom, she can help taking tenant calls, and calling plumbers, but can't run around doing flips or help with one even though she's a licensed agent.

When I had my businesses, I had a local PM look at a SFH rental that was 40 minutes away, and at the time, It started off as a failed flip, I had it for a few years. He ask me if I had a landscaper and plumber that I know and use. I did. He ask me how many calls I get a year from the tenants. I said 4 to 6 at the most. He advised that for his 10% it's not worth it for $1,500/year at the time for someone to take calls from a tenant, and for him to call a plumber. Would cost me $300 for each phone call and I still have to pay the plumber. As to landscapers, they're useful to have as I had complaints from neighbors and the town when it's tenant mowing, and if the place is vacant, the landscaper shovel snow in the winter. If you got landscaper and plumber, you got 95% of the issues covered.

In your case, for what you put in, less than $5000 down and a few thousand in rehab, the cash flow of is not bad. You have to account for vacancies. My SFR rental, now mortgage free and cash flows $1,500/month. I'm retired now, checked out annuities and none can pay me the $1,500/month unless I invest a good chunk of cash. That's besides appreciation that's very high in the NYC area, got it at $70K originally in 1985, now ARV of $460K. With the annuities, when I die, that's it. With real estate, I still have the property, and my heirs inherit it on a stepped up bases

So in my case, I find I have no time doing flips, a small SFR or duplex that renovated and cash flows, over time serves me better. When I had handy blue collar tenants, they never called me, only once a year to wish me a Happy New Year. So I make money while I sleep according to one of my tenants. Two of my tenants stayed for a dozen years each, handy and happy to do the repairs.

Frank thank you! This gives me a lot to think about. I'm leaning toward holding, and you're right—flips tie up time in a very intense way. Also, your input about tenant tendencies helps alot. Very, very much appreciated. 

Nick

A year and a half ago, wife and I bought a home for $89,000 in Northern Indiana on a 5% down conventional mortgage. We currently owe 80,000 on the note. At closing the place was already worth $114,000...that's before we renovated. Now that the reno is finished (spent $6,000 and did the work myself), it's likely that it is worth $140,000 based on comps. 

The big question is this, do we sell in July (after the 2 year cap gains clearing) and walk away with our $60K in equity? 

Or do we rent it out? The downstairs of the house could be one unit probably earning $850 per month and the upstairs could be a separate unit (it has a separate kitchen, bath, 1 bath and living) for $550 per month. Almost meets the 2% rule. My mortgage, utilities (shared), maintenance reserves, and water would be $1,000 per month. 

So it's either walk away with $60 grand cash in July, or take on a couple of renters and cashflow $400 while gaining more equity. 

Bear in mind I run book consulting business and travel quite a lot for work, so managing renters is not necessarily the most appealing thought, but I'm also open to prioritizing for the right fiscal reasons. Happily married and have one daughter with another kid on the way. Taking equity and upgrading to the "dream home" is tempting, that's for sure. But not sure if it's the best long term strategy. 

Thanks all!

Nick
Northern Indiana