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All Forum Posts by: Nick Heil

Nick Heil has started 3 posts and replied 73 times.

Post: Investing in buy and hold real estate

Nick HeilPosted
  • Specialist
  • Corry, PA
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 67
Originally posted by @Cameron Tope:

Hey Winfred,

Like most things, it depends. 

Do you have some savings, a steady job and a solid plan to begin investing? I wouldn't start right now if you're about to lose your job, don't have any cash or a plan to invest. 

But if you have those things, then now is just as good of a time as any to get started. 

 Yeah, I would would piggy back on what @Cameron Tope had to say. It largely depends on your personal situation. I think if you have a steady job and some savings then now is a perfect time to get started. My rentals have largely been unaffected by this pandemic because I focused on having good tenants from the very beginning. All of my rent has been paid and my tenants were great about communicating through the process. If you have a few listed properties that you have your eye on, now might be a great time to make an offer. Even if their listed price hasn't been reduced, the "uncertainty" in the market might cause sellers to accept a deal they otherwise wouldn't. Good luck!

Post: Is a 100 million RE portfolio a reasonable goal?

Nick HeilPosted
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  • Corry, PA
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 67

Reasonable? By most people's standards, no. But who cares about most people's standards. Shoot for the moon. Starting early, staying focused for the next 40+ years, and being aggressive will be some of the most important factors. I wouldn't worry about "rules of thumb" such as waiting to be a certain age to secure a loan. You're going to have to be creative to create that kind of wealth so get started now! Good luck and I truly hope you can do it!

Originally posted by @Chris Lin:
Originally posted by @Nick Heil:

I have two LLC's, one for my portable storage business and one for my rental portfolio. I keep a 4-6 month runway in cash in my portable storage business checking accounts. Maybe only 2-3 in my rental portfolio business. Simply because I have a good full time job and I aggressively save and invest in Vanguard. Obviously those investments are susceptible to market volatility, but being young I have no problem taking on that risk now, and I could always dip into that money if I really needed to.

One unique thing I do is that I set up my Vanguard brokerage accounts for margin. I never actually use that margin account (until recently I used a small portion of it to make a few buys at the recent bottoms of the corona virus pandemic), but the reason I did is because you take a loan out from it anytime, very similar to a line of credit. I've used it a couple times heading to auctions so I had a good chunk of change ready in case a good deal came about. If the deal didn't come then I would just put the money back a day or two later and pay like $1 in interest. The money you take out on margin charges interest, but there is no payback period specified so it's just a handy tool. I can do this though because I have built a nice stock portfolio over a lot of years though and I heavily dollar cost average into those accounts, so I wouldn't recommend someone do this unless they have a nice portfolio built up already. It's just another useful tool so you don't have to dip into investments or cash if you need to act quickly. 

I had a good relationship with a guy looking to sell one of his rentals. He wanted to sell me an owner financed duplex in a nice neighborhood. Only wanted $3,000 down. Could have easily paid for that in cash, but I like to keep my cash invested and i wanted to test out this concept. Borrowed $3,000 from my Vanguard margin account to get into the deal, then used the cash flow from the deal to pay back the $3,000. So it allowed me to get into a nice cash flowing deal without any money out of my own pocket. 

 Great tip about the Vanguard margin account Nick, the interest is a bit on the high end ( 8.5% on <19k loan ) but definitely worth to have in one's tool box !

 Thank's @Chris Lin, yes the 8.5% interest rate is definitely a high one to pay. For that reason, I feel it should only be used in the most opportune times and when you have a good plan to repay it quickly. Definitely should not be used as a source of long-term funds, but rather something that could quickly get you into a deal and give you an edge.

Originally posted by @Phil Valk:

Great read @Nick Heil! I have some land with one of my commercial investments near Fort Myers FL, and exploring building a storage facility. Now I'm going to explore dropping some portable units rather than building a 20,000 sq ft facility...

 Thanks Phil! yeah that's a great idea. I would definitely explore both. There definitely is something to be said for the built in marketing that a traditional facility with roll up doors receives. Maybe you could explore starting smaller with one physical building and simultaneously adding a handful of portables. Then as that investment fills up you can explore building more traditional storage. Overtime you will get the property built out, but you will also have a handful of portables that you would be able to pickup and move to the next property and rinse and repeat. Thanks for reading!

Post: Best track for aspiring Real Estate Developer

Nick HeilPosted
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  • Corry, PA
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 67

You're young, keep working and saving cash for investments! However, if you really want to get out of your current job, then I like your idea of working for a developer if you know that's what you want to do long-term. It will allow you to keep a working income, but more importantly you will begin learning a ton about what you wish to do in the future. Just don't quit your current job in the meantime. Tough it out and wait for the right opportunity to go to a new employer. The next thing I would do if I were you is definitely house hacking. The average American spends well over 30% of their income on housing, so one of the most impactful things you can do to your personal financial situation at your age is house hack, it will set you up to increase your savings rate even further. Plus as a young first time buyer you can take advantage of the low down payment loans available. Then from there I would start acquiring more small multi-families and flipping. Also, don't forget to set up some investment accounts ( I use Vanguard) and start investing in the markets, too! 

Post: 2 yr. College Investment or Jump into Real Estate?

Nick HeilPosted
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  • Corry, PA
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 67

Alex, being a young guy you should definitely do whatever you can to increase your income. Building a sizable buy and hold rental portfolio is very doable, but it does take time. The higher your income (assuming you don't take on mountains of student loan debt) the faster you will be able to build that portfolio. I understand the urge to want to jump in full time right away as I want to do that myself, but if you can find a job that you like and use patience you will built a much larger and more sustainable portfolio much quicker. Having that solid job for a while doesn't just make saving money easier, it also makes borrowing money easier, which is obviously a very important element. The crucial thing here is you need to find that job that you enjoy doing, because that is they only way you can keep your sanity and patience long enough to do what it takes :) Also, in my personal opinion, you should be using some of your work earnings to build a diversified stock portfolio, too. Remember the financial decisions you make today will have huge compounding affects 20, 30, and 40 years down the road so do your best!

@Ron Fletcher thank you, Ron! I appreciate it!

Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Nick Heil:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

I looked at a few franchises that do this.. pretty capital intensive ..  I like your boot strap method.. great job.

 Thanks Jay, I appreciate it! Yeah I would definitely recommend staying away from the franchises when considering this business. There are many different delivery systems, containers, and container manufacturers out there and non of which are directly controlled by or owned by a franchise system. Really any of the companies that have anything proprietary are some of the bigger businesses like Pods who are not franchisable, anyhow. Frankly, I wouldn't want to franchise a pods anyhow, their delivery system is not as good as the one I have now, their units are of less quality, and the largest size they offer is an 8x16.

So my point with that is if you do your own due diligence and find the system you want there is no need for the franchised system, unless you like paying franchise fees!

its folks like you that make America Great !!!  Keep at it. !!

 Thank you, sir! The same goes to you! I've been a long time forum scroller before I started contributing and have read many of your comments over the last few years, I appreciate your insights!

Originally posted by @Dale Miller:

Thanks for sharing @Nick Heil, I really like your approach keep up the good work. Great story!

Thank you Dale, I appreciate it and thanks for reading!

Originally posted by @Rob Drum:

Congrats on the success! This is a really cool business model. I'd never heard of anyone doing that.

Thanks Rob, I appreciate it. Yes it is a very cool model, I'm enjoying it a lot. Getting out and moving the containers around and talking with customers is always a good and fun experience. Most of the customers are always fascinated to see how it works too so it makes conversations natural and enjoyable with people, too.