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All Forum Posts by: Nicholas Devlin

Nicholas Devlin has started 2 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: Refinancing a SFR portfolio

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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Quote from @Ben Harvey:
Quote from @Nicholas Devlin:
Quote from @Ben Harvey:
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Quote from @Ben Harvey:

Hey @Nicholas Devlin, I agree with @Andrew Garcia approach, but would consider the blanket loan option if you're looking to keep these properties long term. A couple of things to consider though about the commercial blanket.. 

1. On a blanket loan, the investor (lender) will appraise all the properties individually to get your total value, your LTV will depend on what those value's all come in at and if your portfolio cash flows (or debt services) positively. You may be required to show income and expense documentation for those rentals as well.

2. With blanket loans, all properties must stay under the umbrella of the loan for the entire time you have the loan. In other words, if you had 10 properties under the blanket, you could not sell one or refi one individually, you must refi the entire portfolio to remove that one from the blanket. If you are not sure if you want to keep all properties for that term, it may be worth keeping your individual loans on each of the properties so you're free to do with each property what you'd like. 

Hope this helps! 

Yes, I completely understand this. Just trying to figure out if there is a way to evaluate portfolio based off of income as if it were a multifamily. But after speaking to 50+ lenders, it isn’t possible. But thank you. 

 No worries! If you don't mind me asking, what's your end goal with the refi of the portfolio?

Just to recoup capital to keep acquiring 

Good goal! I can see why you'd want to do income route vs market value right now, bummer that it's a tough one to find! 

Yeah unfortunately! Just going to take longer to get to where I want to go but it’s all good! Just going to enjoy the adventure. 

Post: Refinancing a SFR portfolio

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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  • Posts 11
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Quote from @Ben Harvey:
Quote from @Nicholas Devlin:
Quote from @Ben Harvey:

Hey @Nicholas Devlin, I agree with @Andrew Garcia approach, but would consider the blanket loan option if you're looking to keep these properties long term. A couple of things to consider though about the commercial blanket.. 

1. On a blanket loan, the investor (lender) will appraise all the properties individually to get your total value, your LTV will depend on what those value's all come in at and if your portfolio cash flows (or debt services) positively. You may be required to show income and expense documentation for those rentals as well.

2. With blanket loans, all properties must stay under the umbrella of the loan for the entire time you have the loan. In other words, if you had 10 properties under the blanket, you could not sell one or refi one individually, you must refi the entire portfolio to remove that one from the blanket. If you are not sure if you want to keep all properties for that term, it may be worth keeping your individual loans on each of the properties so you're free to do with each property what you'd like. 

Hope this helps! 

Yes, I completely understand this. Just trying to figure out if there is a way to evaluate portfolio based off of income as if it were a multifamily. But after speaking to 50+ lenders, it isn’t possible. But thank you. 

 No worries! If you don't mind me asking, what's your end goal with the refi of the portfolio?

Just to recoup capital to keep acquiring 

Post: Refinancing a SFR portfolio

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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Quote from @Ben Harvey:

Hey @Nicholas Devlin, I agree with @Andrew Garcia approach, but would consider the blanket loan option if you're looking to keep these properties long term. A couple of things to consider though about the commercial blanket.. 

1. On a blanket loan, the investor (lender) will appraise all the properties individually to get your total value, your LTV will depend on what those value's all come in at and if your portfolio cash flows (or debt services) positively. You may be required to show income and expense documentation for those rentals as well.

2. With blanket loans, all properties must stay under the umbrella of the loan for the entire time you have the loan. In other words, if you had 10 properties under the blanket, you could not sell one or refi one individually, you must refi the entire portfolio to remove that one from the blanket. If you are not sure if you want to keep all properties for that term, it may be worth keeping your individual loans on each of the properties so you're free to do with each property what you'd like. 

Hope this helps! 

Yes, I completely understand this. Just trying to figure out if there is a way to evaluate portfolio based off of income as if it were a multifamily. But after speaking to 50+ lenders, it isn’t possible. But thank you. 

Post: Refinancing a SFR portfolio

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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Quote from @Andrew Garcia:

Hi @Nicholas Devlin, it sounds like you want the properties to be valued based on cap rate rather than comps, correct?

If so, that could be tough because the value of any property is what someone is willing to pay for it. In commercial real estate, the purpose of the property is to generate income so those properties are valued based on such.

However, with SFHs, the main purpose is for people to live in. Since most people that purchase homes are purchasing them for personal use, not as an investment property, SFHs are valued based on what homebuyers will pay for it.

Therefore, a lender will have a hard time taking that approach when valuing the properties. With fears of a slight property value pullback looming and the lending landscape tightening, it is especially difficult. In 2020 or 2021 there might have been a lender out there.

With that being said, maybe if you use a portfolio or blanket loan, they will value it closer to a commercial portfolio of SFHs.

Hope this helps! Let me know if I can be of any assistance.

Completely understood. Figured there would be a lender that looks at a portfolio as an income producing asset rather than a singular property and base the value strictly off of that. I appreciate the response! 

Post: Refinancing a SFR portfolio

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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Quote from @Jack Mawer:

I'm not sure you would be able to go the commercial route just because these are single family homes - you could try a DSCR loan or something of the sort where you would qualify based on the rental revenue the home brings in each month

Already under a dscr product. I am trying to figure out a way to have the portfolio valued by its income rather than market value per property if that makes sense. 

Post: Refinancing a SFR portfolio

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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What’s going on everyone?

I am currently seeking some answers or advice on how to go about refinancing my portfolio.

Is there anyway to go the commercial route and have the portfolio valued by the income approach?

I’ve spoke to a few brokers that I am currently waiting on answers from but would like to hear some outside opinions from other investors. 

Thanks! 

Post: Sub $75k DSCR Lenders

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Quote from @Katrina Portes:

Try Lima One!


Tried them already. No luck. But thank you! 

Post: Sub $75k DSCR Lenders

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Quote from @Nicholas Devlin:

Been searching for a while now and have had no luck. Are there any $50-60k minimum loan amount lenders?

Still in the market looking for lenders in PA that can help me out

Post: Sub $75k DSCR Lenders

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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Quote from @Matthew Crivelli:

@Nicholas Devlin 

I have yet to find any legitimate lenders willing to do DSCR loans that small. MAYBE you could find a balance sheet lender who doesn't sell the notes that would do it. Still, very few and far between, if any at all.

Yeah I think they’re non existent as well. Heard rumblings of them but noone speaks about who they are LOL. Appreciate the response! 

Post: Sub $75k DSCR Lenders

Nicholas DevlinPosted
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Been searching for a while now and have had no luck. Are there any $50-60k minimum loan amount lenders?