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All Forum Posts by: Nicholas Cavato

Nicholas Cavato has started 5 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: FHA vs Conventional with LLC involved

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Ashish Acharya:

@Nicholas Cavato Purchasing with an FHA loan as an individual offers lower upfront costs (3.5% down), favorable rates, and better cash-on-cash returns, but requires living in the property for 12 months and cannot be issued to an LLC. However, people don't follow this and will rent out or move to an LLC after closing, your decision.

A conventional loan under an LLC provides liability protection and easier rental management but requires a higher down payment (20-25%) and stricter lending terms, which can reduce cash-on-cash returns. For minimizing upfront costs, FHA is better; for liability protection, conventional with an LLC is ideal. Consider transferring to an LLC after occupancy, keeping the due-on-sale clause in mind.

This post does not create a CPA-Client relationship. The information contained in this post is not to be relied upon. Readers should seek professional advice.


 Thanks Ashish, we plan on living in the home for the ful year so I am not as worried about that. I appreciate the education and certainly know about the acceleration clause.

Post: FHA vs Conventional with LLC involved

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Nick Velez:

I wish LLC's weren't preached as much as they have been in the past. They are a great tool for asset protection (when you have assets to protect), but they are by no means the end all be all of liability mitigation. Far too many first time investors obtain less than ideal financing terms, just for the ability to vest in a LLC. I fell trap to this myself when I first started off and now I am refinancing properties out of LLC's, to obtain better terms.

Best of luck on the journey! 

Thanks for the guidance Nick

Post: 2020 New Build Buy, Hold and Long Term Rent

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $270,000
Cash invested: $20,000

Current residence, will be renting out long term starting March 1st, 2025

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

This was our families initial home purchase after renting for a number of years.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Had the help of David Armenta of Armenta Realty, who walked us through the process and taught us the importance of our first home purchase.

How did you finance this deal?

VA loan

How did you add value to the deal?

Updated backyard with artificial turf, painted entire exterior of home, replaced carpet with vinyl planks.

What was the outcome?

Will be renting out long term beginning March 1st, 2025!

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I bought this residence with my VA loan but realized I should have used either conventional or FHA due to the low cost of the home. I plan on holding this home long term due to the low interest rate (2.75%) and renting it out long term to cash flow and build equity simulataneously.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

David Armenta of Armenta Realty

Post: FHA vs Conventional with LLC involved

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Patrick Roberts:

You cannot use an LLC for either FHA or Conventional loans. FHA vs Conventional will largely come down to your credit score, downpayment, use, income/DTI, and future plans. If you have good credit and plan to refinance if rates ever drop significantly, I would lean toward Conventional.

FHA loans will have permanent mortgage insurance unless you put down 10%, at which case the mortgage insurance can be cancelled after 11 years. FHA loans also have UFMIP, which is the equivalent of paying points (likely to be 1.75% of the loan). Where FHA tends to shine is with credit below 680-700 and/or higher DTI's (over 43%).

Also, whether you use an entity (such as an LLC) is largely irrelevant on your return, whether cash on cash or any other metric. Entities are primarily used for protection from liability.


Wow I did not know the PMI would be attached for 11 years and I did not know about the UFMIP either. My credit rating and DTI should not be an issue. I have been a loyal W-2 worker for a long time now until I was educated about the financial benefits about real estate.

Thank you for the lesson! 

Post: Looking for Investment Guidance in Cleveland!

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Account Closed:

I would recommend looking into Lakewood, OH. Immediately outside of Cleveland proper. I recently purchased a duplex in Cleveland and it has been a learning roller coaster. I created a lessons learned doc about all of ‘em. Send me a message if you want me to link it for you 😀


 Hey Christine, I am in a similar situation as Pooja, would you be willing to share your lessons learned document? Thanks!

Post: FHA vs Conventional with LLC involved

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

Looking for advice from you BP pros out there.

I will be purchasing either a single family residence or multi family residence home in the Cleveland, Ohio area no later than January 2025 and intended on purchasing using an FHA loan with an already formed Ohio LLC. I plan on doing a live in rehab, moving out of the residence after 1 year and doing a long term rental after moving out.

However, my lender told me I can not purchase a residence with an FHA loan under an LLC, which I now understand.

In general, is it more financially beneficial (cash on cash return) to purchase:

1. With an LLC using conventional loan

Or

2. As an individual with an FHA loan

I appreciate any additional guidance you all have for me.

Thanks!

Post: Best Business Standard Mileage rate App

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

Thanks for the responses everybody. I’ll give MileIQ a try, I appreciate the help!

Post: Best Business Standard Mileage rate App

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
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Thanks man!

Post: Best Business Standard Mileage rate App

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

Hey everyone,

I'm searching for the best app for tracking mileage on a business vehicle while using the same vehicle for personal use. According to the IRS the vehicle needs to be used for 50% for business and needs to be "ordinary" and "necessary".

Anybody who can give their expertise I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

Post: Marquette, Michigan STR

Nicholas Cavato
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  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

I e-mailed the city council people and the response I got was basically "We're not allowing more than 250 STR's in our city so get in line". Oh well, it's not worth the fight for me at this point.

Thanks Michael!