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All Forum Posts by: Nhia Yang

Nhia Yang has started 9 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: Should landlords live onsite or not?

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6

@John Van Uytven Thank you for the feedback, John! What were some policies reinforced from the property you stayed at which were effective and ineffective in yielding the type of tenant behavior you were needing? Also, how strict were you on tenants missing rent payments? Do you let the first time slide? 

Post: Should landlords live onsite or not?

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6

I found a small multi-family property (4 units, 2BR/1BA per unit) and it qualifies for FHA financing. I am thinking about living in a spare unit (the other 3 units are currently renting at $550/mo each). Has any of you lived onsite as landlords before? What were your experiences and suggestions for me? I have 3 children and currently renting right now, but my primary concern is the safety of the neighborhood. What are some things to look out for/ask, or tools any of you use to measure how safe the neighborhood is before living in as a landlord?

I will go view the property next week, but the usual things I look out for are: vandalism (on streets, homes, cars), upkeep/maintenance of the neighborhood (trashy? or well-maintained lawns), elderly people outside/people jogging/walking dogs, how comfortable residents seem (do people's homes have garages opened? How many outdoor furniture are on porches in good conditions?), and lastly, I ALWAYS use "spotcrime.com" to determine the crime rate of an area. 

What are some things to look out for/ask, or tools any of you use to measure how safe the neighborhood is before living in as a landlord? Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

Post: Need Advice on Financing Multi-Family Property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6

Guys, the seller got back with me this morning and explained the property is currently under contract, she just didn't update the site. Although things didn't go as I hoped, I'm not going to stop here. Right now, I am working with another seller (retired owner of multifamily property) wanting to sell studios and 1BRs who's is willing to do seller finance if I purchase multiple units. We'll see how that goes. Thank you all so much for your help as I have learned a great deal from just this one package.

Post: Help on type of loan for multi-family property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6

Guys, the seller got back with me this morning, and said the property is already under contract, the seller just didn't update the site. I am happy even though this didn't work out as I hoped, I still learned much from this one situation. Thanks everyone! 

Post: Help on type of loan for multi-family property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Thomas Franklin:

Nhia Yang is the owner, of these properties, motivated to sell? If he/ she is motivated, you may want to approach the owner and ask him/ her if they are willing to consider Seller Financing.

If you close personally, you will not have Asset Protection, in the form of closing in the name of a LLC. What happens if one of your tenants has a slip and fall, on your property, or something else happens to them? You are on the hook and can be personally sued, for everything you own. Some people will say, "Take out a quality Insurance Policy and you will be protected." Ambulance chasing attorneys know their way around and can legally navigate around Insurance Policies. Another downside is you loose on the advantages, of the Federal Tax Code, by not closing in the name of a LLC.

If you want to close in the name of a LLC, Mortgage Lenders will offer you Commercial Loan Terms (25-30% down, a 15-25 year amortization, and a ballon due in 5-7 years). This is what I am encountering, in the current Mortgage Industry.

If you close personally and then Quit Claim the property, to a LLC, or a Land Trust you run the risk of the lender discovering a Title Transfer occurred and activating the "Acceleration Clause" or "Due on Sale Clause" that requires the loan to be paid in full, within 'x' number of days. These clauses are contained, in all Promissory Notes nowadays.

Many Realtors and/ or Mortgage Brokers will not tell you this information. Many, but not ALL are only focused on the commissions he/ she will earn and not focused, on your best interests. You many be asking yourself what can I do? As stated in my first paragraph, consider Seller Financing. You may have to put more money down (10-15%), but you can close, in a LLC, with no worries about banks. I have a lengthy Legal Opinion, from my seasoned Legal Team regarding this matter.

 Thomas, I truly appreciate your taking the time for this well-thought advice (especially the legal side of it). The different closing scenarios you provided are most insightful and I agree with you, others (realtors and brokers) will most likely not look out for my best interests and I'd have to learn all this the hard way. For that, your input means so much more.  That said, I have already reached out to the seller regarding seller financing and still waiting for reply. I can actually put the 10-15% down too, if seller agrees. I will keep you all posted.

Post: Help on type of loan for multi-family property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Roy N.:

@Nhia Yang

Are the three buildings on separate lots or are two, or all three, on a single lot?

If they are on a single lot, you will likely need to finance them under a single {commercial} mortgage.

If each unit is on its own lot, then each could be financed separately, or you may find a lender willing to underwrite them using portfolio lending.

 I really appreciate your help, Roy.

These 3 buildings are the 3 properties for sale, so I'm assuming it'll have to be a single commercial mortgage.

However, I have reached out to the seller asking how they are listed on the deed (as separate units or half). I will keep you posted. Thanks so much!

Post: Need Advice on Financing Multi-Family Property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Anthony Chara:

Hi Nhia, the answer depends on the bank. Some banks will make you get 3 residential loans. Some will allow you to package them as one commercial property. Suggest you contact some local lenders, not the big banks, but the smaller local ones like Credit Unions or ones that have a limited number of branches in your area.

 Hi Anthony, thanks so much for your suggestion, I'm currently looking around locally (community banks/credit unions) as you advised. I will keep you all posted.

Post: Need Advice on Financing Multi-Family Property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Todd Plambeck:

Are the duplexes each deeded as a single property or is each half a separate property?  You may have 6 pieces of property to deal with instead of three.

Todd, these are the units. Thanks so much for your response, I have asked the Seller per your question and will keep you all posted.

Post: Help on type of loan for multi-family property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6

I found a combined multi-family property package (3 duplexes) for sale by owner. I'm aware residential loans cover single-family homes up to 4-unit homes, and commercial loans are for 5+ unit homes. My question is, since the owner is selling 3 duplexes (all at the same location), will I need 3 residential loans for each duplex? Can I just get 1 residential loan to cover all 3 properties since they're just 2 units per property? Or, am I required to use a commercial loan for all 3 duplexes (6 units total)? Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Nhia.

Post: Need Advice on Financing Multi-Family Property

Nhia YangPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tulsa, OK
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 6

I'm new to REI but starting out with "buy-hold" strategy specializing in small multi-family properties. I found a combined multi-family property package (3 duplexes) for sale by owner. I'm aware residential loans cover single-family homes up to 4-unit homes, and commercial loans are for 5+ unit homes. My question is, since the owner is selling 3 duplexes (all at the same location), will I need 3 residential loans for each duplex? Can I just get 1 residential loan to cover all 3 properties since they're just 2 units per property? Or, am I required to use a commercial loan for all 3 duplexes (6 units total)? Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Nhia.