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All Forum Posts by: Neel Patel

Neel Patel has started 12 posts and replied 42 times.

Post: Blueprints for Shell Property

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4

Hi team!

I recently purchased a shell in Brewerytown and we went to pull the builder permit but L&I is saying that we need blueprints since it's in a shell condition. Neither me nor my GC was aware of needing blueprints because it's a shell. Do I need blueprints? How much should I estimate for blueprints? Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance!

Post: Potential BRRRR (or Flip)

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Irfan Raza:

@Neel Patel I am pretty sure I had the property available for cheaper. Hope you are on our wholesale list. I personally think your rehab cost is too low or your ARV is too high, but that is not really the question that we are talking about. If you rent and finance you will do great on you appraisal, but have you calculated you DSCR? Will a bank lend you that much money? Or are you putting in your personal name and using your income to cover it and getting a mortgage through Fannie/Freddie. I think those are the questions of real concern if you choose to keep and rent.

 Sent you message. 

We have decided to flip the property once the rehab is complete.

Post: Potential BRRRR (or Flip)

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Jason D.:
@Neel Patel definitely not a rental with those numbers. Even as a flip its tight so watch that rehab budget. Your selling closing costs are too low, philly has a 3% transfer tax. What neighborhood is it in?

 I've adjusted my closing costs to 4% and 6% for agent fees. The property is in Brewerytown on the 1500 block on N. Newkirk.

Post: Potential BRRRR (or Flip)

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @John Leavelle:

@Neel Patel I missed the key word there "Shell".  However, I still would do a complete analysis of the life expectancy of all your major components and appliances.  Adjust to a more accurate reserve number.  I recently built a new 4-Plex and have a higher number that is ruffly 7%.  Just because you hold that amount in reserve does not mean you end up spending it.  It is just a conservative practice.  5% for Repairs may be ok since your property is virtually new.   It will come down to the quality of tenants.

 Thanks John! Complete agree with you on the quality of tenants. I've gone ahead an adjusted my numbers. I rather be conservative upfront.

Post: Potential BRRRR (or Flip)

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4

@Christopher Phillips and @John Leavelle: what should I be accounting for in repairs and capex? 10%? I did 5% capex since everything will be new in the property.

My original thought was to refinance out the bulk of the cash put in, $175k to $200k with roughly a 5% interest rate (or more by the time I can refinance). I'm moving away from rental towards flipping because I would not cash flow. The highest I could possibly push the rent would be maybe to $1600ish but that would be the absolute high-end. 

I have accounted for about $1500-$2000 in holding costs. I forget to put that in my original post.

I already have the property so a lower purchase price is out of the question, unfortunately. 

Post: Potential BRRRR (or Flip)

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4

Hi everyone! I just picked up a shell property in a booming area in Philadelphia. Original plan was to flip it, then started considering renting because of the area but now, I think the original plan of flipping might be the best route. I want to get feedback on my analysis and thought process on the two options. 

  • Purchase Price with closing: $130,000
  • Rehab: ~$80,000
  • Total all in cash: $210,000
  • ARV: $270,000 on average (low-end would be 250k and high-end would be $300k but a house just a block away appraised for $325k recently with lower finishing than what I am planning)

If we flipped the property:

  • Closing costs: $21,600
  • Net: $36,900

If we refinance and then rent:

  • Rent: $1400 (but could be $1600 based on other comps)
  • Tax: $100
  • Insurance: $200
  • All utilities: tenant responsibility
  • Property Management (10%): $140 (we would self-manage but I like to build this number in my calculations)
  • Vacancy (5%): $70
  • Repairs (5%): $70
  • CapEx (5%): $70
  • Net: $750

With only a net of $750, pulling out our cash via refinance the property would put us in a negative cashflow. Our loan payments would be roughly $1100+  a 30-year mortgage with a 5.5% rate. 

Are there any flaws in my numbers? Anything I should be considering? Anything I am missing? I feel like we'd walk away with more money by flipping. Open to all feedback. 

Post: Lender In Philadelphia

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Joe P.:

@Neel Patel my lender indicated that they would do a personal loan for someone in the LLC and slide it after closing into LLC wing. This way you get the best rate and I believe you're allowed one slide without incurring transfer fees. It sounds like with a LLC you will be in a commercial loan slot which is always a higher rate with a 5-year bullet.

If going personal and then sliding sounds like something you would like, I'll be happy to PM you my mortgage guy's information.

Hi Joe! Thanks for responding! I haven't heard of the term sliding. Could you explain? Would I close the house under my name and then transfer to the LLC? What kind of fees would be involved with that? I wouldn't mind having a conversation with your lender.

Post: Lender In Philadelphia

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4

Hello,

I am looking for recommendations for a lender that will loan to a 2-3 person LCC. Looking for a 30-year or 20-year fixed rate mortgage. I had found a lender that would do a 30-year fixed rate but the LLC could only have two people in it. Another lender I have only does 5 year fixed for a 20 year loan.

Any recommendations would help!

Thanks!

Post: Outlet in HVAC Closet

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4

I have an electrician coming by today to look at everything.  Thanks all!

Post: Outlet in HVAC Closet

Neel PatelPosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Jim K.:

@Neel Patel

OK, you could do it. Just make sure you unplug the lights and get rid of them when you put the house on the market.

 Thank you!