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All Forum Posts by: John E Ceisel

John E Ceisel has started 13 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Buying Cash Only Property Without Cash

John E CeiselPosted
  • Property Manager
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

Hello BP!

A condo (in a building I already own several units) is going to be put up for short sale in approximately 2 weeks.  The seller, knowing that I already own there, offered to sell to me cash before going to market.  

Unfortunately, the recent gut remodel of a triplex I bought has drained my cash funds.  It would be a shame to see this one go to another investor as I almost own the majority of condos in the building.  I offered a rent to own option (and to bring their mortgage into good standing), but the seller is not interested and only wants cash.

I think a standard mortgage is out of the question in the short time frame.  I'm in California and the cost is approximately $155k for the condo (plus I'll need $10k for the renovation).

Any ideas on how I can fund a cash purchase?  I understand hard money typically doesn't lend 100%.  I have sufficient equity in some condos I own to cover $155k -- however, since they're rentals I have had a hard time pulling money out of them through standard financial institutions.

Any ideas?  Looking for a creative way to generate funds to pay 100% cash on this investment property.  Thank you.

Post: Project 3 Done! House hacking with no (net) money down!

John E CeiselPosted
  • Property Manager
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

Great job Jeff! 

I've done 3 condos in a similar fashion.  Only one of them was a live in remodel.. and I have to agree it was the most difficult.  The previous owners mistakenly put the labels on the subpanel backwards and I got electrocuted replacing the dishwasher.  Voltmeter anyone?

That said, it was worth it and paid off big time in the end.  Keep the momentum going!

Post: Financing Unwarrantable Condo

John E CeiselPosted
  • Property Manager
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

That's a great option for when I look to divest of the holdings.  Thanks Bob!

Post: Financing Unwarrantable Condo

John E CeiselPosted
  • Property Manager
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

Hi Brian,

Just want to drop a quick note to thank you.  I setup a meeting with a local lender and presented my business plan/numbers.  They agreed to lend on non-warrantable condos based on my cashflow and assets.  This will be a great resource going forward!

Post: Financing Unwarrantable Condo

John E CeiselPosted
  • Property Manager
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

Hello,

I own 3 out of 9 units in condo complex (it's a single building complex).  Because that is 33.3% of the units, the complex is no long warrantable according to Fannie Freddie guidelines.  In the past, I was able to get portfolio loans from Credit Unions to finance my purchase of the units. 

There are 2-3 units coming on the market in the near future that I would like to grab as it'll be low overhead and I know the market rents, the building, and am on the board of the HOA.

That said, I am having trouble getting financing.  They'll be around $150k each based on current market prices.  I'm happy getting one or two of them for the time being.  I can't get conventional financing or any more portfolio loans (not a primary residence). 

Any ideas on how to finance? I have a HELOC available with $53k, but not sure what the best approach is to get the other $97k. I'm going to have to think outside the box on this one (maybe credit cards and/or hard money, but those are all very expensive). With decent financing, these will be cash flow positive. I appreciate any feedback/thoughts you can offer.

Funding Strategies (some brainstorming)

  • Down Payments/Cash
    • Self
      • Cash from checking/savings
      • 401k withdrawal
      • Sell property
      • Sell car
      • Credit card advances
    • Banks
      • Personal Loan from
      • HELOC on existing property
      • Home Equity Loan on existing property
      • Refinance existing property
    • Other
      • Hard money lender
      • Personal loan(s)
      • Investors
        • Legal ramifications?
  • Mortgages
    • Bank
      • Conventional mortgage
      • 203k FHA mortgage
      • Investment mortgage (20% down)
    • Credit Union
      • Conventional mortgage
      • 203k FHA mortgage
      • Investment mortgage (20% down)
      • Portfolio loan
    • Other
      • Take mortgage on directly from seller