All Forum Posts by: Nathan Barilka
Nathan Barilka has started 4 posts and replied 11 times.
Post: HELOC on Investment Property in Missouri

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- Central Oregon
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Yeah, I brought that up as a concern, I'm not totally sure if it's required just yet. I should find out more details tomorrow.
FICO is high 700's/low 800's, they said they'd do anywhere between 70-80% LTV depending on a few factors.
Post: HELOC on Investment Property in Missouri

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- Central Oregon
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@Josh Dan we do not own more than 10 properties and yes, it is under an LLC. I was informed we'd likely take the property out of the LLC to establish the HELOC then put it back under the LLC afterwards.
Post: HELOC on Investment Property in Missouri

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- Central Oregon
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Thanks Nicholas, that's super helpful. I'll give them a call today and see if they have any products that might be helpful. From the looks of it, they have a much broader spectrum of offerings that we might be helpful in the long run too.
Post: HELOC on Investment Property in Missouri

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- Central Oregon
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We have a rental property (a duplex) in Missouri with a 3.5% rate and a decent amount of equity after our renovations. Originally we were going to cash out refinance, but with rates as they are today it doesn't make sense to do so. I've searched the forums and called a fair amount of financial institutions in search of a HELOC for the property. Either it's not a service offered or they do not offer HELOC's on duplexes (nobody has been able to tell me why that is though). I still have a few more calls on my list to make, but wondering if someone might be able to point me in a direction of an establishment that offers a HELOC on a duplex investment property. Thanks all!
US Bank: No
Rocket Mortgage: No
TD: Not offered in MO
Navy Federal: No duplexes
SoFi: No
Rate - No duplexes
I should mention I've tried to use the 'LENDERS' tab here on BP but the link does not seem to be working for me. I'm unable to input/add/edit any info that would allow me to find lenders through this site.
Post: HELOC vs. Refi - Financing For Next Project

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- Central Oregon
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Quote from @Kerry Baird:
It would be easier/cheaper to get financing on the property if you still occupy it. HELOCs on investment properties are harder to come by and the rates are variable, which make them riskier than getting a fixed rate second.
Hi @Kerry Baird, yes the duplex is still my primary residence, however the refinancing has me hesitant only because of my low APR which I don't think we'll see again any time soon. I've also considered getting a construction loan but in truth haven't looked into it yet.
Post: HELOC vs. Refi - Financing For Next Project

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- Central Oregon
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Thanks @Jaime Reyes, appreciate the response. I'm not familiar with the HELOAN so I'll look into it. I don't necessarily need the flexibility of the HELOC as I'm only intending to lean into it once for the rehab. Thanks again!
Post: HELOC vs. Refi - Financing For Next Project

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- Central Oregon
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Hi all, I'm in need of some advice, here's my situation as precise as I can make it:
I purchased 2 duplexes and am close to finishing renovations on the first one. We've done some pretty extensive work: full interior remodel including kitchen, bathroom, floors, doors, appliances and furnace for one unit. Exterior work includes windows, siding, A/C condensers. Pretty all inclusive. I was house hacking this renovation so I was able to put down 5% at 2.75% on the duplex I'm living in, then 30% at 3.5% on the duplex that had 2 tenants. After paint goes on this week and finishing touches go in, I'm ready to cash out... which is where I'm stuck.
I purchased the property for $170K, I expect it to appraise between $230-250K based on comps in the area. I calculate I should be able to pull $34-50K at 80% LTV (depending on ARV). Since I have a 2.75% interest rate a cash out refinance doesn't seem to make sense. The only other option I can think of wold be taking a HELOC out to fund the rehab on the second duplex. I know HELOC rates are in the 7% range right now, but with as much equity that I have in the second duplex, when I finish those rehabs I should be able to pull out upwards of $90K (also, depending on ARV) to pay that HELOC off.
I know there are some smart individuals on this forum so I want to throw it out there to see if there's another approach I might be missing, or an angle I haven't seen yet?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
Post: First Time Investor from SF Bay Area

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- Central Oregon
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Thank you all for the warm welcome!
@David Tsang I'm in San Mateo, live and work here. I've seen other members talk about a meet up too, I'd also be interested in meeting up with others in the area.
@Eduardo Bernal I haven't looked much at the East Bay, but I have heard the property values are on the up. I understand the desire to be close to an investment, especially if you're able to do some of the work yourself.
Thanks for the links, @Brandon L., I'll be sure to check them out. I'm still learning my way around the BP forums, I'm sure those will help. I'll be sure to fire any questions I have your way!
@Michael Strachan I'm almost done with Long Distance Real Estate Investing, and have also read the new book How to Invest in Real Estate, by Joshua Dorkin and Brandon Turner. I'm finding the long distance book very interesting, and raises a good number of points to consider. I just moved up from Los Gatos, I enjoyed my short stay there quite a bit. I applied for a conventional loan last year and was pre-approved, however the house hunt fell stale after my offer fell through last minute. In hindsight, I think it was for the best. I'm still exploring private money or hard money lenders, I have yet to decide where I will land as of now.
Post: Advice on Property in CT After Retirement

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- Central Oregon
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Thanks for the replies!
I think you have a point about being safe @Edward Liu, and I think that's what it's boiling down to. It happens to coincide with how she's feeling too. The risk is not ideal for her, and to be honest I understand. I don't know if she can purchase a house outright in the Midwest without selling the CT house, but then again I haven't asked.
@Andrew Briggs my mom lives in Stamford. As you mentioned, the cost of living is pretty high in Stamford as is. Your point of being close to NYC is one of my major arguments as to why she should keep the house. I too believe that houses will retain value in large part because of the commuters to and from the city. I'm not familiar with tenant-landlord laws, but I've also never had a need to look in to them. In terms of rent, comparable houses (3 bed 2 1/2 bath) in the area are renting in a wide range, anywhere from $2,500 - $4,200 (last I checked). Regardless, the general consensus is the house might be better off sold. Ultimately it's her decision. I was looking for insight in either direction, so I very much appreciate both of your posts.
Nate
Post: First Time Investor from SF Bay Area

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- Central Oregon
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Hi everyone, my name is Nate.
I'm a first time (well, second time) poster here on the Bigger Pockets forum and just wanted to say hi. Over the past couple months I have been soaking up as much info as I can through the BP podcasts, forums and various real estate books that have come recommended here. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, I've been here for going on 5 years. I'm interested in investing locally, however I'm currently interested in out of state investing, mainly due to the inflated local market here. I'd like to start with house flips to build capital then eventually move in to single and multi family rental properties. I'm taking it slow, learning as much as I can, and I'm looking forward to meeting people here on the forums!
Hope to talk to you soon,
Nate