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All Forum Posts by: Nate R.

Nate R. has started 11 posts and replied 200 times.

Post: Phoenix Multifamily Meetup: Ben Leybovich & Sam Grooms

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Coming to town for this. Should be good!

Post: What Has Been Your 2018 Favorite Multifamily National Event?

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I have heard good things about the Old Capital conference in Dallas. I was thinking about going in October.

Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

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If he offered a preferred return for his non-accredited fund, I would be more likely to do it. I'm guessing the lawyers said he can't use complicated compensation structures like waterfalls. 

I have relationships with sponsors that offer straightforward and relatively investor-friendly 80/20 splits (no preferred), so I choose to continue funding those kinds of deals. But I still haven't ruled out CC at some point. I appreciate the fact he's opened up his deals to the "small guy."

Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

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Originally posted by Rich text editorRich text editor@Andrey Y.:

 Please do keep us posted. The idea of him letting in non-accredited investors is very telling. If the DEAL is good enough, you wouldn't need non-accredited investors. 

The requisite funds would be swiftly raised from accredited investors if the deal is good. Same goes for needing a massive brand and marketing campaign.

The need has to do with the amount of money being raised, not the investor accreditation. Every syndicator has a base of investors that they can tap to fund deals, but to keep growing, they need to be able to reach new investors. That's why they partner with equity-raisers, advertise deals to the general public or offer them on crowdfunding platforms. 

Certain types of SEC exemptions don't allow them to advertise to the public unless they are for accredited investors only, but for Reg A offerings they can. 

Because it has become cheap to service a high volume of investors using technology, there are now more companies doing offerings with low minimums to non-accredited investors using these new regulations (like Cardone Capital, Fundrise, Realty Mogul, etc).

What pool of capital is larger: the pool of accredited investor money (what is that, 1% of the general population) or the general public's?

Post: Is investing in a syndication risky if the market changes?

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Depends on the asset class. Multifamily had a 0.4% default rate in the last recession, so it is generally considered less risky compared to other types of commercial real estate. Besides complete loss of principal, there is risk that returns are lower than projected.

Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

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Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

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Originally posted by @John Corey:
Originally posted by @Nate R.:

I am thinking about taking a flyer on Cardone Capital Equity V with a small investment. I like his videos and podcasts about real estate. Seems to be focused on Class A, large properties that could be acquired by REIT's and PE funds. He boasts of a long track record.

The fund holding period is 10 years, so it requires a long-term commitment. This is different from many of the syndications I've seen, where the sponsor tries to give your money back within 5 years.

I am in some syndication deals but due to not being accredited, I don't see many opportunities to invest in Houston, Atlanta, Florida and other areas that GC invests in.

Nate, I was just looking up the definition for Accredited Investor. I found the following statement interesting. As it is from Investopedia, I am not sure if the SEC has precisely the same definition. "Also, if a person can demonstrate sufficient education or job experience showing his professional knowledge of unregistered securities, he too can qualify to be considered an accredited investor."

My experience with the concept is more centered around the UK and the FCA (UK's equivalent to the SEC). The FCA definitely has a way for an investor to demonstrated that they are a Sophisticated Investor (UK's label for accredited) if the investor has been active with unregistered securities. 

I wonder what the path is for the SEC and USA opportunities. X deals or Y training?

Hi John, there is a specific legal definition of "Accredited Investor" in the US. It defines a minimum net worth or income that investors must meet.

There is a different category called "Sophisticated" for investors with knowledge and experience. I am in the Sophisticated category due to education/training I received from an investor group, and experience as an investor.

Whether a sponsor accepts Accredited, Sophisticated or anyone depends on the offering type. There are a lot of rules about the various offering types and investor accreditation to "protect" investors from fraud or making unsuitable investments.

The JOBS Act is making it easier for companies to raise money from the public and imposes minimal requirements for suitability. Cardone's crowdfunded fund is open to all categories of investors, but the aggregate sales to an individual investor who is not accredited cannot exceed 10% of his/her net worth or income. 

Post: Cardone Capital...anyone looked into this?

Nate R.Posted
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I am thinking about taking a flyer on Cardone Capital Equity V with a small investment. I like his videos and podcasts about real estate. Seems to be focused on Class A, large properties that could be acquired by REIT's and PE funds. He boasts of a long track record.

The fund holding period is 10 years, so it requires a long-term commitment. This is different from many of the syndications I've seen, where the sponsor tries to give your money back within 5 years.

I am in some syndication deals but due to not being accredited, I don't see many opportunities to invest in Houston, Atlanta, Florida and other areas that GC invests in.

Post: 78727 Wells Branch, Austin - Need your inputs

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I live very close to this neighborhood. One thing worth noting is the low-income, "affordable housing" in WB. I occasionally hear about shootings in the area. There are good and bad pockets.

https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/austins-housing-authority-flexes-new-muscles-in-expansion

I wouldn't let that deter me from investing, but maybe there are areas with better potential.

Post: "Syndicators" with no operational experience

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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Nate R.:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Brian Ploszay:

Interesting.  It is very important for syndicators to have a proven track record.  If they are placing capital into other deal structures, with different management, then due diligence should include the operators bio as well.  Just placing capital is only a form of brokerage.  I'd feel more comfortable with someone who has full operational and development experience.  

 Raising capital for a syndicator and your not a principal requires a series 7 license and the ability to sell away..  to be legal at least that's my understanding.. 

Isn't the purpose of a securities exemption (eg. 506(c)) intended to get around licensing requirements?

Basically in order to raise money without the same requirements as a public company you need to follow some rules about who you can invite into deals. If it's publicly traded, that's a different matter.

 As a principal yes.  

 Oh, good point. It might be different if you're raising money for someone else's deal.