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All Forum Posts by: Nate R.

Nate R. has started 11 posts and replied 200 times.

Post: If you are buying when unemployment is 4%, you are buying trouble

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 214
  • Votes 234
Originally posted by @Matt R.:

Many so called stable locations we see marketed on BP today, last gfc,  lost their renters, not that rents went down...the renters disappeared altogether. Many OOS investors and especially from Cali it was then game over. Few seem to remember that part. 

Yeah, you have to be careful about some of these. The Midwest is "stable" but has seen anemic growth. Texas, on the other hand, never really took a big hit. Demographics is key. Places where people are moving, with job growth and affordable housing will withstand a slowdown.

Post: If you are buying when unemployment is 4%, you are buying trouble

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 214
  • Votes 234

Let's get out the time machine and look at the history:

https://drewbecher.com/ups-downs-in-bay-area-real-...

Of course, these are median prices, which is somewhat misleading. During the last financial crisis, what happened was that high-end homes stopped selling, so sales of lower-priced homes brought down the averages.

In SF, the median price declined 23%, in Santa Clara, 37% and Oakland 60%.

Post: If you are buying when unemployment is 4%, you are buying trouble

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 214
  • Votes 234

Sympathetic to OP's views, and I've been thinking about this myself, but I wonder: what is the worst case if you buy cash-flowing assets in stable markets now? 

The experienced investors I know buying multi-family are not at all concerned about cap rates or market timing. Their view is that multi-family residential is recession-resistant and will continue to cash flow in a recession. So, why be concerned if the equity goes down. They keep getting paid in up or down markets. As long as the deal makes sense today, they can withstand an equity drawdown.

Trying to time the market, on the other hand, you incur the opportunity cost of having your money on the sidelines.

I don't consider buying homes in the Bay Area investing. It is speculation, since there is little or negative cash flow. The Bay Area is a volatile market and tech is in a massive bubble. I wouldn't buy there right now, for sure. 

Post: Help with a SHADY landlord

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 214
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Keeping the deposit is probably a violation of the state's landlord tenant laws. Even in landlord-friendly state, the penalties can be severe.

Post: I dont understand the Turnkey game

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
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@Vika Bha: An alternative is a multi-family fund or syndication. But multi-family is a different beast with different pros and cons than single family, plus you lose full control of your investment.

Post: Rehabs after Hurricane Harvey?

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
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There is tons of activity in Houston right now. Non-flood properties are in high demand.

Post: Rehabs after Hurricane Harvey?

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 214
  • Votes 234

@Aaron Rowzee You're still typing on your phone. I think you meant "incurred" not "inferred". Dang auto-correct! ;) No worries.

Post: Unreasonable move out charges - California

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
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I agree the charges seem reasonable. It only seems fair to consider the point of view of the landlord, especially since this is a real estate discussion forum. :)

Post: Rehabs after Hurricane Harvey?

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 214
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I talked to a property management company in Houston with their own rehab/make-ready crew and they said they're able to keep up with demand at the moment. From what I hear in general, projects are taking longer but work is still getting done.

I'm not looking to buy flooded properties, so at least I don't have to worry about the escalating costs of drywall. :)

Post: Houston Harvey rehabs

Nate R.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 214
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@Wesley C.

@Kevin Wood

I'm in need of an estimate on some rehab in Houston (not hurricane-related). I wonder if you could point me in the right direction?