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All Forum Posts by: Nate Ayers-Moores

Nate Ayers-Moores has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Quote from @Sabrina Sanchez:
Quote from @Nate Ayers-Moores:

Hey BP! Im Nate and I live in Worcester, MA at the moment and want to become a real estate agent and would want to do this full time, however I have some reservations that I know my come strictly from fear and wanted to see if maybe some experienced members of the group could calm them for me! I work full time as a merchandiser at one of the large soda companies and the benefits are very, very nice and the ot pay is very good as well. I have a decent income but its no where near what i want it to be and on-top of that the work is very boring and dull. My concern with becoming an agent is mainly these 2 things. 1, I am young and often get told i look younger than I am and despite being a very passionate person who is very driven to perform at a high level for not only myself but the people i am helping, I am afraid I may be written off before I ever have a full conversation with a client. 2, as most people fear with a commission based job I have bills I need to pay every month and knowing we are headed into winter where it may not be as busy, i fear not making those bills in time. Im not paycheck to paycheck but I don't have a ton saved up as this journey has only taken place over the past year so I wasn’t as educated before. I know y'all will be able to maybe calm my fears and push me into the direction I feel I already need to go. Thank you

HI Nate, 

Coming from a position where you don't have many savings, you have bills to pay and you have a decent job with great benefits I would suggest to find and interview a brokerage that allows you to be an agent part time while showing you the ropes. When I first got my license that is exactly what I looked for and I did find that. I have been with the same group since.

I have been a part time agent now for 3 yrs. I have been able to double my income with real estate because of the multiple avenues where you can earn income through real estate. My 9-5 is in the pharmaceutical industry. It pays me well,I have great benefits and I have bills just like you. However, I have kept it because it is flexible, I work from home and provides me a stable foundation for applying for residential mortgages (Different loans, especially in the commercial space handle finances differently). I bought my first househack to eliminate my biggest bill (rent) and am in the process of securing more units. As I use up all my residential options in terms of mortgages I find little need to keep my W-2 job and am now just steps away from becoming a full time agent. I strategically took steps, had a plan and was patient. 

At the end of the day you know yourself better than anyone. You will need to work hard whether it is part time or full time. But at least while you learn you can risk it on a part time basis. Feel free to reach out anytime!


When you first start as an agent you will not know everything. It takes time to learn but as you learn you can still work that w-2 job. You will know when the time is right for you.



 This is definitely the approach I’ll be taking in the coming days! I actually follow condor on instagram and have attended the rei events before and absolutely loved it. Tons of information and I found people more than happy to talk to me and guide me in this journey. I’ve found the real estate community as a whole to be very welcoming to new entrepreneurs who may be asking some basic questions but they all love to see passion which I always try to bring to the table. I appreciate it and hopefully I’ll see you at the rei events!

Quote from @Robert Carmody:

I started my real estate career when I was 22 years old and had just graduated from college. Prior to that, I had been a lifeguard and pool manager at a local country club and also had waited tables and served drinks at a restaurant & bar. That was the extent of my work experience. I also had no personal experience as a buyer or seller. I told my parents that I wanted to get my real estate license and become an agent. I think they were surprised and concerned, and my dad asked me who I knew that needed to buy or sell a house? The truthful answer was nobody. Many of my friends were still in school or maybe just starting their first real jobs, and therefore were not going to be in the market. And, my parent's friends that I grew up with knew me as the lifeguard at the pool, not someone they were ready to take seriously when it came to a large asset, like their house. But, ignorance is bliss to a certain degree, and I dove into the business full time. 17+ years later, I'm still a full time agent. 

It absolutely can be done at a young age, even though it is not a very conventional "first" career path that younger people follow. Just because it can be done doesn't mean that it can be done easily. Real estate is hard business to be successful with. I was very aware of the same concerns that you are when I started, and it took me longer to get my first couple of sales compared to older agents that started at the same time as me. My broker and other established agents all suggested that I target the first-time buyer market because I was young and recently graduated from the university, so I had a personal connection to the neighborhoods in that part of the city. They said I'd be better off working with buyers over sellers. That turned out to be terrible advice. Young first-time buyers don't want another young person that's never bought, sold, built or owned a house. They want someone like their parents to guide them along the pathway to homeownership, to hold their hand, and to reassure them. I couldn't that. I didn't like working with them and they probably didn't like me. I did great with older people instead, and many of my clients my first and second year in the business were in their 60s or 70s, or older. There was a mutual respect there. They liked seeing a young person that worked hard, and I appreciated the wisdom and life experience that they shared or that I witnessed working with them. They didn't need their hand held. It wasn't their first home sale or purchase. They lived in nicer neighborhoods, took better care of their houses, were available to meet during normal business hours compared to evenings and weekends, and they didn't care if I was the #1 agent in my office, or how many assistants and buyer's agents I didn't have. Instead, they cared a lot about my market knowledge, what the other houses for sale near theirs look like in person, what marketing I was doing, what the contracts they'd sign said and meant, and how I was looking out for their best interests. Several of those earlier customers ended up referring their adult children to me, followed by their grandchildren.  All that said, if I had just taken the advice of everyone around me or bought into my dad's fear that I wouldn't have an outlet for business, I would have probably sold a couple houses after a year or so, then would have gotten out of the business entirely, just like a lot of new agents to. As a young person, I had more time to learn the business, the contracts, the inventory, the new developments. I could work weekends, evenings, 7 days a week, and was usually happy to do so. And, I wasn't reliant on all of my business coming from people that I already knew, from family friends, neighbors, former coworkers. While it took me about 4 or 5 months to make my first sale, I ended up selling 21 houses my first year. 

Don't ignore your concerns or fears altogether, or dwell on them either. Instead, study the market harder, become more knowledgeable, ask questions and advice from experts in your market, and it won't be long before you are one of them too. 


 This was an awesome read thank you so much! My job has me work from 6-2:30 and at the latest to 5 or 6 so the fact that a lot happens in the evening means I can work that no matter how long my full time was. BP has definitely put me on a path to really want this and it’s thanks to people like you so thank you. I’ll be starting the process to get my license after tomorrow after work as I’ll have plenty of time to sit down and grind out a few hours. This has me hungry in the best way possible 

Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

Don't worry about the age thing...know your market and share your knowledge.

Plenty of lists around like 40 under 40.....read some of those for inspiration.

30 under 30 lists as well....https://magazine.realtor/30-un...    I'm not a fan of the HGTV type shows, but watch the ones with the younger agents...some of them 

It is 100% commission work...so have some savings....some say 6 months of savings and that's probably a big goal.

As you interview brokers....ask them about these concerns.....ask them what their opinions are to overcome them....ask them how to generate immediate income?   Maybe mix in some leases with sales if you can to generate faster income.

See if there is a way to work some part time hours in your current job perhaps to generate extra income on the side....maybe work early mornings and work real estate afternoons and weekends.   Don't screw around...get busy and start selling the day you start....

Ask brokers in your area if there is a season....as your thinking goes there has typically been a season...busy March to June and tapers off to September and then slows during the winter....however I have found in my market we are busy all year round.  Consider working with some investors who don't care about a season...they buy as they have money.  If in your area there really is a big season...start perhaps in Jan/Feb so you are ready to roll in March or whenever the season starts.


 I appreciate the well thought out response! If I really hunker down I could get that 6 months by the end of the year most likely! I already work 6-2:30 on a good day and 6-6 on a bad one (unfortunately I can’t avoid the 6-6 as OT in those situations is essentially a must) but that usually only happens maybe 1 or 2 times a week with most of my average days being 6-4:30 at the latest so I’d assume my best bet would be to ask around and see if those hours work for agencies in my area. Thanks again for the response!

Hey BP! Im Nate and I live in Worcester, MA at the moment and want to become a real estate agent and would want to do this full time, however I have some reservations that I know my come strictly from fear and wanted to see if maybe some experienced members of the group could calm them for me! I work full time as a merchandiser at one of the large soda companies and the benefits are very, very nice and the ot pay is very good as well. I have a decent income but its no where near what i want it to be and on-top of that the work is very boring and dull. My concern with becoming an agent is mainly these 2 things. 1, I am young and often get told i look younger than I am and despite being a very passionate person who is very driven to perform at a high level for not only myself but the people i am helping, I am afraid I may be written off before I ever have a full conversation with a client. 2, as most people fear with a commission based job I have bills I need to pay every month and knowing we are headed into winter where it may not be as busy, i fear not making those bills in time. Im not paycheck to paycheck but I don't have a ton saved up as this journey has only taken place over the past year so I wasn’t as educated before. I know y'all will be able to maybe calm my fears and push me into the direction I feel I already need to go. Thank you