Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Natalie Bull

Natalie Bull has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: Should I Be Concerned?

Natalie BullPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

The transaction took place in WA state, if any other WA wholesalers are out there reading this and can shed light on the paperwork side of things.... 

Post: Should I Be Concerned?

Natalie BullPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

@Gabriel Amedee Thanks for your reply. I am not sure if the owner purchased title insurance, but I will definitely ask. It's good to know that if he has it, I can rest assured regarding the legal side. 

@Jay Hinrichs @Tom Gimer @Wayne Brooks Thanks for your replies. 

Yes there is a hard money loan in front of me for supposedly $800,000, but seeing the $700,000 in the deed makes me wonder if the loan is actually for $700,000? I tried to look up the lien amounts with the county, but it just shows the lien holders, not the actual amounts. 

I understand the inherent risks of being a subordinate lien on a property, but that's not my question or concern in this thread. My concern is if it's normal for the $700k number shows up on the deed and not the $800k (aka that the deed would not reflect the wholesale fee of $100k) 

Post: Should I Be Concerned?

Natalie BullPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

Hi everyone, 

I am new to the real estate game and have some questions on whether or not I should be worried about how this transaction went down.

I was brought on as a lien holder after the property was purchased, and I brought $50k to the table to do renovations. I was told by owner A that he bought the property from wholesaler B for $800,000. However, it has come to my attention that the deed for the property in the county records shows $700,000, not $800,000 as the sales price. The deed also only reflects the transaction being between seller "C" and now owner "A". B is not mentioned at all, nor is the $100,000 wholesale fee. Is this normal for a wholesale cash deal?

I guess worst case scenario, I'm afraid the wholesaler is making $100k under the table (which seems like a huge wholesale fee to me?) and there is something illegal going on here. But, the other layer to this is, does it even need to concern me? Am I exposed in any way legally as a lien holder if the wholesaler/seller/buyer did something illegal in that transaction? 

I also don't know how I could verify numbers (a.g. the amount paid to the wholesaler), since there is no HUD involved as it is a cash sale. What documents should I ask to see, if any?

Thank you for reading my complicated question!

Natalie