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All Forum Posts by: Nana Sefa

Nana Sefa has started 4 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: DSCR Refinance Quote

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Quote from @Kenneth Ye:

Hi Guys,

I have a SFH in AZ that currently has a 8.25% DSCR 5 year prepayment penalty of 15k. I have a 800+ credit score and a one year lease in place that is 1.00 of the PITI. Current loan balance is 302k. Current value based off Zillow is 435k.

Please let me know if you guys think I should refinance with this quote from a lender or wait until the prepayment penalty is gone. I have 4 years left before the 15k prepayment penalty is gone on the current mortgage. 

LTV- 75%

DSCR 6.75% this rate will bring my mortgage from 2285 to 2116

Pre-Payment Penalty 5-4-3-2-1%

Loan origination 1.5%

Buydown option 1.5% to make it 6.375% this rate will bring my mortgage from 2285 to 2035

Appraisal 725$

Underwriting- 1295$

Thank you guys! 

The refinance will only save you $13K in 4 years.  Don’t pay $15k penalty to save $13k. Wait till interest rates drop further.  

Post: Looking for a property manager for a 4-unit in Pasadena, MD

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Can anyone recommend a property manager that managers in Pasadena, MD? Considering adding 1 or 2 four unit properties around there to portfolio. 

Post: Home inspector recommendation

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I am looking for a home inspection company in the DMV that guarantees their work.  I had a company in Michigan that would guarantee to pay to fix any major miss that are discovered within 90 days of their inspection. Looking for a company that offer similar guarantee in the DMV. Thank you.  

Bump. 

Post: Home inspector recommendation

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I am looking for a home inspection company in the DMV that guarantees their work.  I had a company in Michigan that would guarantee to pay to fix any major miss that are discovered within 90 days of their inspection. Looking for a company that offer similar guarantee in the DMV. Thank you.  

Post: Multi-family in Brooklyn / Queens (First Property)

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Happy to look at an FHA with you!

House hacking is a great starting strategy.


The OP has $250k for down payment. What would be the advantage of FHA over conventional? Knowing that FHA rates are about 1% higher that of conventional mortgages?

Post: Owner’s title insurance - to get or not?

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Title, insurance and surveys are two of the most important tools you can get when purchasing a property. Not to mention it will also help you sell the property if you intend to flip or sell in the future.

How does owner’s title insurance help me sell the property? Thanks. 

 Good morning, have a clear title is a marketable asset for any Buyer, future owner. 

Not buying owner’s title does not cloud my title. 

Post: Owner’s title insurance - to get or not?

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Quote from @Bubba McCants:

Title, insurance and surveys are two of the most important tools you can get when purchasing a property. Not to mention it will also help you sell the property if you intend to flip or sell in the future.

How does owner’s title insurance help me sell the property? Thanks. 

Post: Owner’s title insurance - to get or not?

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@Jay Hinrichs 

Well first Jay I know you are extremely experienced and I suspect Carlos is as well so let me start by saying you both have my respect. 

Here is the nuance I am trying to distinguish: yes of course when you refi or sell a lender or buyer will want title insurance (unless Iowa). 

But what about the 6 weeks that I own the property before the sale or refi? Should I buy a full-price policy to protect myself during those 6 weeks? It has the same cost as a policy that would be in place for 6 years. I do not think the answer is 'always yes'. 

That's another weird thing about title insurance. Most insurance is paid monthly, title insurance is the same cost no matter how long you hold, the price is not fully tethered to the amount of risk protection the owner receives. 


Yes, title insurance is a one-time premium, generally that's considered a selling point, not a weird thing. Perhaps you're not aware that title coverage continues so long as you hold an interest in the property or have potential liability for warranties given in the deed of conveyance.

Let's say you sell the property and take back a PMM.  You don't need to buy a new lender's policy because the existing one continues in full force and effect.

Or let's say you sell, conveying by WD.  Five years later you're sued by your grantee's grantee alleging there an easement for a gas line predating your ownership thereby breaching your warranties.  Subject to the terms and conditions of your policy, there should be coverage and the insurer will probably provide a defense.

It's because of that continuing liability that I think you can't fairly say that you only had insurance for six weeks.

All that written, if you want to self-insure, have at it.

You're right of course that some protection extends past the 6 weeks of ownership, and I was clumsy or mistaken describing it otherwise. 

Nevertheless that anecdote shows risk is nonzero, but nothing further. The risks are lower than if I continued to own the property myself. The rational thing to do is to compare the risk and risk premium and make a decision to self-insure or not based on my risk tolerance, it's an obligation of rationality. I do not think you are disagreeing with that. 

Here is what confuses me about the one-time premium. If I have a 30yr mortgage the lender does not require title insurance updated every 5 years. But if I rate/term refi with the same lender after 5 years, title insurance is required to be paid again. Why? I get the old loan is paid off and the insurance goes with it but why can't it just be transferred to the new nearly-identical loan. It doesn't make sense to me. 


 You make a good point about refi with same lender. If I refi, I don’t need a new owners title because I am the same owner. But if I use the same lender to refi why can’t we keep the old lender title policy since it is the same entity that holds the previous lender title policy. 

Post: Owner’s title insurance - to get or not?

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Here are a couple more examples of when the existence of a loan policy won't help the owner... encroachments, boundary issues, forced removal of improvements due to building permit and code issues, title issues that would not affect the lender's lien... or at least would most likely not cause the lender to take action which might help the uninsured owner.

And the reason another loan policy is required in connection with a refinance (in addition to the obvious reason -- there is a new insured) is that the period of time in which a defect might arise has just been extended to the date of the new policy. After all, the purpose of the new policy is to insure the lender that its new lien is in first (typically) position. No new policy = no new money loaned.

@Tom thanks for highlighting the instances of title issues that would not affect the lender’s lien. I want more examples of those. 

Post: Owner’s title insurance - to get or not?

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@Jay Hinrichs Yes exactly, I think this is a rational way to do it in many cases. 

@Rob K. I'll respond to this since I hear the undertones towards what I have just been posting about. Obviously an anecdote about a single case where someone would have benefitted from purchasing insurance is not evidence supporting that insurance should 'always be purchased'. The fact that the risk is nonzero does not mean the risk is high enough to pay any price for insurance. Title risk is real, it's just unlikely. Calculate the risk and the risk premium and make a rational decision, it's investing 101. 

That's another area where the title insurance payment structure does not make sense, on a refi. On a refinance you have to get the title insurance 're-issued'. Basically you have to pay again just to change the lender. If you change the lender on your hazard insurance you do not have to buy a whole new policy. This does not make sense to me. If you have any light to shed on that Rob I'm open to hearing. 

Most other developed economies like Japan and most of Europe have gov't backed title, a few other countries have a hybrid structure, and it is really only the US and Canada that are all about private title. We are a bit of an outlier as a country. 

I think the private title industry made sense for a US that is more prone to litigation and was forced to keep private records. As we transition to electronic records and the chance of title issues from paper records fades into the decades I hope the heat from reform efforts breaks through to the regulations to create a system that is more optimal. 

 


The same argument discussed above would suggest that if I buy a property for $100K and it appreciates to $500K, I need to buy more title insurance to protect my equity. Does anyone do this? Guess what, if you have a claim they will only pay out to the purchase price.

I have learnt a lot from these discussions, but I am still not convinced that I get a lot more from owner's title insurance policy beyond the protection I could get from the lender title policy that I pay for so long as I have a mortgage on the property. The day I pay off my mortgage could be a different issue. I guess I could get the owners title policy after the mortgage is paid off. And that way I can also insure some of my appreciation after owning for 30 years.

Any lenders on this page should chime in. Do you have examples of times when a title issue came up on a property you held mortgage on that you left the buyer to deal with alone? If so, why did you not file a title claim then?