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All Forum Posts by: Nancy Sathre-Vogel

Nancy Sathre-Vogel has started 3 posts and replied 32 times.

@Ryan McKelvey: Great questions. 

Do all late fees go to the PM? Yes - she specifically states in the contract with me that all late fees go to her.

Are all outstanding fees paid prior to repairs? This was laid out in the tenant lease. In the lease agreement, she outlines the priority structure for allocation of the deposit. Highest priority is to pay unpaid late fees. After that comes unpaid rent. Way down the list of priorities is damage to the house. Again - this is only delineated in the tenant lease, not the owner contract. 

Did the PM communicate with you regarding the regular late rent? Or did this catch you by surprise? Caught me totally by surprise. She never mentioned any late rent until May 2018. The tenant had been late with her rent nearly every month since this PM came on board in May 2017.

Do you have a homeowner statement that you check regularly that you can see the outstanding balance so your properties account. I will admit that I didn't scrutinize the statements for the first 5 or 6 months. I glanced at them, but that's all. However, starting around November last year, I knew something was going on - I didn't know what, I knew something was wrong. At that point, I started looking very, very carefully at my owner statements. Everything looked good on my statements. 

This all became clear when I got her ledger just a few days ago. On the ledger, she shows all the late fees and the unpaid pet rent. On the ledger, I can see how it was all building up month after month. None of that is listed on my owner statements at all. I had absolutely no idea any of this was happening.

It was amazing. Just me, my husband, and our twin sons - they were 10 when we left Alaska and 13 when we reached the tip of South America. Incredible experience. The boys are 20 now.

@Austin V.: That is awful. I hadn't even thought about how these shenanigans can go wrong like that.

I should add that I talked with my old PM for about an hour this evening. She is livid. I am not the only one of her clients that has had problems with the woman who bought her business - she has heard from a whole bunch of us. My old PM was able to shed some light on some of the more puzzling aspects of this whole thing - things that she has heard from other property managers and her other former clients. This woman is sleazy. At best.

I've figured out a lot in the past couple of days. I suspect that both the tenant and the PM were shady. I don't trust either of them. I don't know how much the PM tried to communicate with the tenant, and I don't know what the tenant is telling the truth about and what she isn't. I don't think I will ever know. 

I DO know that the PM used the deposit to cover the late fees - she sent me a copy of her ledger that says that straight up. There is NO question that she did that 2 weeks ago - on July 24, she moved the entire security deposit to her own account, and said it's to cover the late fees. 

I'm still very confused about a whole bunch of stuff here. The pet rent, for example. I talked with my old PM, and she said that the tenant did not pay pet rent - she had paid a deposit. The new PM added the pet rent into the lease, but the tenant never paid it - not once. I have the ledger starting in May 2017 when this PM took over. The tenant never, ever paid the pet rent. Why did the PM allow her to go a full year of not paying? The first I heard about all these late fees building up was May 2018.

It is entirely possible that my PM was not malicious - just lazy and unethical. I am trying to sort this out and figure things out. I have three rental units and there were issues with all three. It's very clear that the PM did nothing - no walk throughs, no drive bys, no phone calls (literally - she refuses to speak with tenants.) She made zero attempts to actually look at the houses at all. I know this for a fact. 

So maybe she was just lazy and just wanted to sit in her office and collect rent checks? It's certainly possible. But that's not what I hired her to do. I hired her to keep tabs on the houses and to be on top of things. And she did not do that. At all.

I will totally be exposing her! At this point, I am trying to figure everything out and get all my ducks in a row. Once I've done that, I will be posting reviews every place I can find. I will be filing ethics complaints with the organizations she's a part of. I will be filing reports with the BBB. I will do whatever I can to warn others to not take a chance on her.

I already have. She is heartbroken. She said I was the 6th owner to call her about the new company. I know she had 60 units, but I'm not sure how many owners. If we say that the average owner had three units, then she had around 20 owners. And 6 of us have called. That's pretty pathetic.

I fired the PM 6 weeks ago as there were a lot of issues. When she handed over the leases and security deposits is when she took the money. I'm not yet sure what recourse I have - that's what I'm trying to find out.