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All Forum Posts by: Ralph R.

Ralph R. has started 9 posts and replied 1172 times.

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
  • Votes 852

@Byron Bohlsen   I'm thinking they may be doing something like that here. It's gonna require some more vetting. Everybody's out to get your money. If you arn't paying attention they will get it too

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
  • Votes 852

@Joe Splitrock

Joe

I have land lord reverts on my properties.  When the tenant closes their account the utility reverts to my name.  That way the heat stays on preventing a freeze up in winter.  Im not sure what happened here but the utility bills both reverted back to my name in June.  That indicates the tenant (Moved in in March) called and got the utility in his name then closed the account triggering the revert.  Or.....maybe the utility company has made some error here.  when we called them today they said both accounts were in the tenants name as of November, but we did have a December bill.  something is fishy here.  More research is needed for sure.

RR

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
  • Votes 852

@Robert Melcher

Yes of course that's in our lease.  problem is enforcing the lease cost even more money.  If I say pay up or I will evict you he's left with 2 choices.  If he can he will probably pay.  if he can't pay then I have the added expense of an eviction, money spent to get rent ready again, and vacancy expenses.  This all compounds my already $500 dollar loss.

What I think I'm going to do is bill him for the utilities, and keep the original utility receipts. If he pays great.  Problem solved.  If he doesn't pay I'll say no more.  Then when he does move out, I can deduct the back utilities from his damage deposit.  That avoids the vacancy in March, and expense of eviction thereby cutting my losses.  This is the course of action we are checking out now.

It would have been a lot easier if I would have been watching the monthly P&L statements.  This could have been stopped a long time ago.

RR     

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
  • Votes 852

@Aaron Cagnoni

Aaron I'm a Colorado boy that ended up in Alaska.  I see a few people on here from that area, the springs, pueblo but not too many.  Quite a few from Denver, Collins and Greeley also.

RR 

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
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  • Bethel, AK
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@Sam Dangremond  the property manager did mess it up.  So did the book keeper and so did I.  The same pm however has been responsible for my buying 2 duplexes including the one I wrote about. Both off market leads both bought for below market/appraised value. She has made me far more than the 500 dollar utility thing.  It's pointless to lay blame. She works for a very old and well respected real estate office in pueblo.  RR

Post: Brother and sister on Deed

Ralph R.Posted
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  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
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Rick Harmon Not true. The starting value is not zero. The house has to be valued while its in the estate. This is for both state and federal taxes. In Colorado inheritance tax is starts at 6%. ( I don't know about Massachusetts ) Capitol gains is based on your tax bracket but starts around 25% (I believe). Many people make the mistake of under valuing the property in the estate to avoid inheritance tax only to end up paying more Capitol gains as they started with a lower beginning value and the Capitol gains tax is higher. No legal or tax advice intended. RR

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
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  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
  • Votes 852

@Peter Amour  yeah I've made a lot bigger mistakes but for somebody that made a mistake in analyzing a property then followed it with this one it would have been hard to make the mortgage payment. Thanks for your reply. RR

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
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  • Bethel, AK
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@Micki M.thanks for your reply. If you lose your concentration it's pretty easy to make a costly mistake. I see your from Denver   The rental I was referring to is in Pueblo Co.

Post: you win some and you lose some. I lost this one.

Ralph R.Posted
  • Investor
  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
  • Votes 852

   My Father and Both grand parents were realtors and Landlords.  I grew up immersed in real estate, dinner talk was easements, right of ways, surveys,  evictions, Etc. Etc.  For many years I avoided real estate.  I had several businesses, worked at some really good w-2 jobs and 10 years ago I decided to try my hand at being a Landlord, while still working my w-2 job.   Real estate was not new to me, and I've had some pretty good success both buying and selling, and buy and hold. 

  So jump to today.  I have no bad debt, and work 2 jobs (70 hrs. a week) to save money to invest.  I buy 1-2 properties a year, mostly duplexes.  Life is good Right?  Then how did I fall into this one?

  While getting my taxes ready for my CPA, I notice one duplex had not only fallen short of its projection for 2015, it was below its 2014 figures.  Curious I checked out the year ending statement and discovered one of the units had gone vacant in May and re rented in late June or July.  The new tenant failed to put the gas and electric in his name.  The landlord revert left them in my name.  Both the PM, and the bookkeeper (she pays the bills) for the PM failed to notice.  Total loss is $540 dollars.  If you are only getting $100 dollars a month CF.(lucky I do better than that) That's 5+ months right out of your pocket. 

  The real error here was me because I too failed to notice.  I get one check, and a monthly statement for each of 5 rental units from this same PM. company.  I never looked closely at the Statements, just filed them and cashed the check.  SHAME on all of us, But DOUBLE SHAME on me!!  Its MY rental and MY money.  Its now 6 months later and having just discovered this goof up I will need to make a decision as to weather or not I can collect the back utilities or not, or just bite the bullet, take the loss now and make him put the utilities in his name immediately.

 I know I have some options here, but the reason I'm writing this isn't to discuss them, but to bring to light a point.  Every day I see people on here focusing on the 2% rule, the 50% rule, the good tenant, the bad tenant, this problem, or that problem.  Many people on BP want to wholesale or some other real estate related job while also investing, or they are focused on learning everything they can about RE, what to buy when to buy or where to buy.   It made me think about how I missed the utility thing.  I was focused on buying new properties, 2 Jobs, and everything else under the sun.  I was not watching my rental's income. POOR management on MY part.

  IMO the lesson here is pretty big.  You first and foremost must manage and oversee your investments.  Its no different than owning your own business, in fact it is your business. Just the same as a restaurant, or car wash.  You have to be aware of, and watch everything about every door you have.  It is as important to be on top of your rental after you have bought it, as it is to knowing a bunch of rules, good locations, or how to correctly analyze a property before you buy it.

  Its my idea a newbie should study as hard if not harder at how he is going to manage a property as he does at the metrics that go into buying that property.  After all he is going to spend way more time trying to make it pay than he did buying it.  Every property is a winner and every property is looser. ( sorry Kenny)  The difference is the management.  If the property is purchased right its easier to make it a winner, and the rewards are greater but make no mistake it STILL can fail as well.  The question then becomes can you afford the mistakes of learning to manage your properties?? 

Just my .02

RR               

Post: Property Management Fees

Ralph R.Posted
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  • Bethel, AK
  • Posts 1,209
  • Votes 852

@Robert T.

I invest out of state and to date have not used a turnkey company.

A couple other things I have learned about PM's.  Many want you to sign a contract that has a penalty for early cancelation of the contract.  Make darn sure its the right PM. before you sign this one.  It cost me $750 dollars to get rid of the PM from he** a couple years ago. 

Another thing is who gets any late fees?  some keep it for collection efforts, some forward to the LL. 

My Pm's both charge 10% a month, one gets $250 for locating a new tenant, the other gets 1/2 of first months rent for the first tenant.  after that they have no charge for finding tenants. 

I think its as hard or harder to find a Good PM, than it is to find the right property.  This is the reason my investments are in the same area.  Most of my properties have come from leads generated by not my realtor, but my PM.  afterall who knows more about the performance, condition and track record of a property than the PM. who has been managing it the past several years??

I'm buying a duplex  in a different city than my usual one.  The scariest thing for me is finding the PM.  I know the property will work, The Rental market is very strong there, Its all gonna fall to the PM.  I've vetted several, but its pretty hard to know for sure.  If they don't pan out its on to the next.  If they do then I will expanded my area by another city.

One last thing.  Don't give up on the PM to quick.  You do have some chance to train the PM a bit.  Remember you are paying them.  If they do something you think is wrong, accepting too low of a credit score, not serving a notice to vacate at the agreed upon time, accepting partial rent without consulting you, etc. etc. you have the opportunity to correct them.  After a while they will learn your standards and expectations and maybe things will smooth out.  Remember it's their job to keep you posted about everything going on with YOUR rental.  If you allow them to keep you uninformed and out of the picture that's your fault not theirs.  If they don't do it to your standards its the same as when the tenant is not paying rent.  Move on to the next one. 

RR