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All Forum Posts by: Nadir M.

Nadir M. has started 64 posts and replied 437 times.

Hello everyone, 

In regards to renters insurance, what does everyone look for when a tenant submits their policy to you? Does everyone over 18 have to have their names on it? Is there a category that must be included ie personal liability. Just want to make sure all parties are covered. what about pets? Flooding etc. 


thank you 

Following up on this topic from months ago. I hired a lawyer who finally evicted this tenant. PM placed house on market about 33 days ago. When property was placed for rent, I thought it was ready to go and received my PM’s blessing. Apparently my PM walked through it a week ago, and said house isn’t ready for rent. She gave me a quote of atleast $7200 worth of work that it needs. I feel like this should have been discussed before house was out on market. The price of the house was also lowered by $100. There has been 68 contacts/inquiries yet only one showing. Tenant who saw it never reached back out so guessing they were not interested, according to my PM. PM is extremely thorough and experienced. She helped me get this tenant out of my property and I’ve learned a lot from her. I’m super confused how my house still on market. There were some safety issue that needs to be addressed but $7200 worth of work will not rent my house any faster in my opinion. It’s a cute house in a great neighborhood. According to Zillow contacts there is definitely people looking to rent and at the right price it will rent out. I’m just confused. I’m thinking of taking house off the market to try to fix some of the things the PM suggested. I have to try to do it myself as I can’t afford the price she quoted me and she doesn’t mind me doing the work, she just cares that work gets done and gets done asap. What suggestions does anyone have? Where am I going wrong? Thank you all  

Quote from @Rob Pollock:
Quote from @Nadir M.:

Unfortunately will have to start eviction now. Need to either hire a layer or go solo. I live out of state so I’m sure I’ll have to be present to court meeting. 

Why the eviction now? Bad check, no show to meet your dad?

 You won’t believe what happened. So she never met my dad. I get a text from random number saying that’s it’s her brother texting me and that I’m part of a hoax and he wants to check to see if I am really the property owner. One top of that, he also said that they waited for two hours to meet my dad and that they couldn’t get a hold of me. He wants to send me to the authorities if he finds out that I am fraud and trying to take advantage of tenant. Also, I was told that tenants son already paid me over the app. If that’s the case, why are you agreeing to meet with my dad before asking to verify that I received payment froM her son?   I promise you, you couldn’t make this up. 

Unfortunately will have to start eviction now. Need to either hire a layer or go solo. I live out of state so I’m sure I’ll have to be present to court meeting. 

Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:

@Nadir M. never let them move in until the money hits your account in the future. I would talk to a local attorney here to seek help.


 Already left an attorney a message. Good learning lesson. Live and learn 

Quote from @Wesley W.:

Everyone has given you very sound advice here.  As you have learned, you need to tighten up your processes ASAP.  Meantime, mitigate the damage that has been done.

I am reading you are going there to get a cashier's check from her.  Conveniently, it's a long holiday weekend so you will not actually know if that check is good until Tuesday at the very earliest.

I know this will be inconvenient for both you and tenant, but I would change the locks (if she has not already taken possession) and HOLD any move-in until those funds are guaranteed.  That means, WALK THE CASHIERS CHECK IN TO THE BANK FROM WHICH IT WAS ISSUED AND GET CASH.  If you deposit the "cashier's check" into your account and it turns out to be fake, you may not know for weeks and will have lost more time and money.  If the cashier's check is legit, she would have had to get it from a local branch near your property, so get your antennae up and BS detector if it's from "out of town."

Do not compound your problems here by "hoping for the best" and getting a piece of paper from her this weekend and assuming all is well.  She has already failed to follow through with several onboarding tasks you have asked of her.  This is the time where tenants are on their best behavior, so you are seeing that now.  She is either incompetent or a crook.  Do not delay finding out the answer to this question by treading lightly this weekend.  Stick to your processes.  Do not make exceptions because of her in-person presentation.  I now we all fancy ourselves to have positive personal relationships with our tenants, but when it comes down it this is still a business.

Good Luck!


 Again not to sound naive but she is very incompetent. I have verified everything she’s been saying and it’s all legit. The time and hours she spent with apartments to get her payment setup was truthful. I’m having my dad meet her today at 10 am to collect a cashiers check. I’m also going to be calling a lawyer to go through eviction process if check is fake at all. My dad will be able to deposit check so should know if it’s legit. 

Quote from @Lori Goldsmith:

There is a reason they call it a Security Deposit.

My Brokerage has a strict Cashiers checks ALWAYS rule with security deposit(s) and first months rent. Ask them kindly to stop the move-in process until you have a cashiers check.

If they make over 100K, they have the funds and can easily provide you with the cashiers check by tomorrow. 

Bummer we are going into a Holiday weekend where some banks are not only closed Monday July 4th but some branches are already closed on Saturdays. 

I'll be thinking good thoughts for you, that this all gets worked out by tomorrow.


Thank you so much. The thing is, first months rent is due tomorrow on top of prorated rent that she’s behind on, and deposit. I’m heading down there for the holidays anyway so I’ll get this figured out. She did say she wants to process a cashiers check but there is an excuse to everything.  

Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Matt Bishop  I don't know what kind of account you have at bank of america but those I believe would be ACH transfers. Wire transfers are charged on my account at Bank of America.  I know because I had to teach one of my tenants the difference between sending a wire transfer and ACH at the time wire transfer was a $30 charge.    

@Nadir M. my application includes the bank they use.  Typically I can tell them what ACH  zelle, popmoney they can use to transfer funds based on what their bank uses. I know some people favor something like cozy but I try to make it as easy as possible for people to pay me (short of venmo which I won't use).  


I’ve never had any issues with apartments until this tenant. My bank charges $15 for a wire. At this point they should get charged the $15 and put this behind us  

Quote from @Matt Bishop:

@Nadir M., only accept a direct bank wire to your dedicated rental property bank account, not, checks, zelle or any other intermediary for all recipients from the tenants. Wire transfers are not subject to NSF or retraction. If you want to protect your account numbers, set up one bank account solely for rent deposit and each month, transfer the balance to your operating account.

About midnight on each last day of the months, I get multiple text messages from my bank notifying me of receipt of wire transfers from my tenants. Bank of America does not charge me for this service.


 This is great because my wife banks with Bank of America 

Quote from @Jeyo Punnakottil:

@Nadir M. NEVER NEVER NEVER USE A THIRD PART SERVICER TO COLLECT SECURITY DEPOSIT AND 1ST MONTHS RENT BEFORE MOVE IN.I always use Cashiers check or money order for the security deposit,pet deposit and 1st months rent NO EXCUSE,Period.If tenant cannot do that well i am moving away.Until the security deposit clears in my bank account i donot hand over the keys how frustrated the tenant is.Another key thing ,the more pushy the tenant is in getting the place the more shady the tenant is and i will always double think @ that point.


 Yes lesson learned. I’ve always done it this way and never had any issues but this will be the last time I have this issue. Thanks for your input.