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All Forum Posts by: Mark Nolan

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Post: SDIRA Expert Question

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@Casey Mericle

Yes as long as the other IRA is not your IRA or a disqualified party's IRA.

Post: Real Estate Investing vs 401K (et al)

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@Dave Chapa

Congrats.

Post: 20K worth it for Self Directed IRA?

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@Bernard Chouinard

You could always invest it in tax liens or promissory notes.

Post: Newbie from Apopka FL

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@Russell Holmes

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Post: New member in Michigan

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@Clarke Wegener

Welcome to Bigger Pockets. Make sure to read the Beginner’s Guide: http://www.biggerpockets.com/real-estate-investing

Post: New member in Hampton Roads, VA

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@Kevin Harris

Welcome to Bigger Pockets. Make sure to listen to the podcasts. They are very informative, and contain ample information. https://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/

Post: New to investing and a little discouraged

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@Linsey Wilson

Welcome to Bigger Pockets. You are at the right place to learn about real estate investing.

Post: Using IRA Funds Under LLC

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@Joshua Aceret

Your are correct that all the income would flow back to the IRA owned LLC which could then be reinvested in additional properties. In later years when you are ready to take IRA distributions, for example, the funds would be returned from the IRA LLC to the IRA, as the distributions have to flow from the IRA for tax reporting purposes. Simply put, an IRA LLC is a way to grow your retirement nest egg on a tax deferred basis, but taxes will eventually need to be paid on the basis and gains.

On another note, if you are looking to have access to some of the retirement funds without having to pay taxes, you could open a solo 401k plan, which can be directly invested in real estate, and then you can borrow some of the solo 401k funds.

Following are the similarities and differences between the solo 401k and the self-directed IRA.

The Self-Directed IRA and Solo 401k Similarities

  • Both were created by congress for individuals to save for retirement;
  • Both may be invested in alternative investments such as real estate, precious metals tax liens, promissory notes, private company shares, and stocks and mutual funds, to name a few;
  • Both allow for Roth contributions;
  • Both are subject to prohibited transaction rules;
  • Both are subject to federal taxes at time of distribution;
  • Both allow for checkbook control for placing alternative investments;
  • Both may be invested in annuities;
  • Both are protected from creditors;
  • Both allow for nondeductible contributions;
  • Both are prohibited from investing in assets listed under I.R.C. 408(m); and
  • Neither may be invested in your own business.  

The Self-Directed IRA and Solo 401k Differences

  • In order to open a solo 401k, self-employment, whether on a part-time or full-time basis, is required;
  • To open a self-directed IRA, self-employment income is not required;
  • In order to gain IRA checkbook control over the self-directed IRA funds, a limited liability company (IRA LLC) must be utilized;
  • The solo 401k allows for checkbook control from the onset;
  • The solo 401k allows for personal loan known as a solo 401k loan;
  • It is prohibited to borrow from your IRA;
  • The Solo 401k may be invested in life insurance;
  • The self-directed IRA may not be invested in life insurance;
  • The solo 401k allow for high contribution amounts (for 2016, the solo 401k contribution limit is $53,000, whereas the self-directed IRA contribution limit is $5,500);
  • The solo 401k business owner can serve as trustee of the solo 401k;
  • The self-directed IRA participant/owner may not serve as trustee or custodian of her IRA; instead, a trust company or bank institution is required;
  • When distributions commence from the solo 401k a mandatory 20% of federal taxes must be withheld from each distribution and submitted electronically to the IRS by the 15th of the month following the date of each distribution;
  • Rollovers and/or transfers from IRAs or qualified plans (e.g., former employer 401k) to a solo 401k are not reported on Form 5498, but rather on Form 5500-EZ, but only if the air market value of the solo 401k exceeds $250K as of the end of the plan year (generally 12/31);
  • When funds are rolled over or transferred from an IRA or 401k to a self-directed IRA, the amount deposited into the self-directed IRA is reported on Form 5498 by the receiving self-directed IRA custodian by May of the year following the rollover/transfer.
  • Rollovers (provided the 60 day rollover window is satisfied) from an IRA to a Solo 401k or self-directed IRA are reported on lines 15a and 15b of Form 1040;
  • Pre-tax IRA contributions on reported on line 32 of Form 1040;
  • Pre-tax solo 401k contributions are reported on line 28 of Form 1040;
  • Roth solo 401k funds are subject to RMDs;
  • A Roth 401k may be transferred to a Roth IRA (Note that from a planning perspective, it may be advantageous to transfer Roth Solo 401k funds to a Roth IRA before turning age 70 ½ in order to escape the Roth RMD requirement applicable to Roth 401k contributions including Roth Solo 401k contributions and earnings.);
  • Roth IRA funds are not subject to requirement minimum distributions (RMDs);
  • The fair market value (FMV) of assets held in a self-directed IRA is reported on form 5498;
  • The fair market value of assets held in a solo 401k are reported on Form 5500-EZ;
  • At termination, the solo 401k is required to file a final Form 5500-EZ and 1099-R; and
  • At termination, the self-directed IRA is only required to file a form 1099-R.

Post: Partnering with Self-Directed IRA

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@Tyra Walsh

Excellent question and one we get all of the time. Unfortunately, such transaction is not allowed and it would run afoul with the following prohibited transaction rule. 

"Lending of money or extending credit between a plan and a disqualified person."

However, if you are self-employed (just part-time activity is required and you can still work for a full-time employer as well) you could open a solo 401k plan, transfer your IRA or former employer plan to the solo 401k plan, then borrow borrow from the solo 401k plan and use those proceeds to invest in real estate outside of the IRA or solo 401k plan. You can then secure the rest of the purchase with your own credit/income.

Under the solo 401k loan policy, the solo 401k participant may generally receive a loan of up to 50 percent of her vested account balances, up to a maximum loan amount of $50,000. The maximum loan amount is calculated differently, however, if a participant already has an outstanding solo 401k plan loan. To learn more about the solo 401k loan rules, see the following. 

https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/retirement-plans-faqs-regarding-loans

Post: Leveraging Employer 401k Loan

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The following IRS page is a good source for understanding the 401k participant loan rules.

https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/retirement-plans-faqs-regarding-loans