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All Forum Posts by: Uzi Pablo

Uzi Pablo has started 1 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Robert C.:

@Uzi Pablo, I've been having fun watching the responses to your post here because... well, not a lot of people of your financial means ask something like this in the forums. Pretty entertaining!

I posted this once before, but it sounds like you fit the profile for Tiger 21 perhaps. A friend of mine turned me onto it. I'm not actually a member myself, but he seems to get a lot of value from the network (he's a retired hedge fund guy in his early 40's). I like to follow their quarterly reports, though, which tell you how the members allocate their wealth. Right now, it seems like about 25%-30% of assets get allocated to real estate. You may want to take a closer look so you can ask your peers directly (going along with that theme of talking to people more successful than you). Good luck!

 Awesome, thanks a lot. I'll take a look at that. And yes, I'm not like your normal person as far as what I want to do / am interested in.

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Pratik P.:

You're already really good at something, why don't you capitalize on that instead of trying to get into a completely new business? Maybe start another business in your field with the funds you have?

 Because I was looking for (partially) passive investment strategies that would beat your run of the mill low-medium risk portfolio. Based on what I heard it seemed some aspect of real estate investing would fit this bill. 

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Adam Wigdorski:
@Uzi Pablo And by the way. If you really do have that current income you are going to get mobbed with a crap ton of brokers trying to sell you everything they can and people wanting you to fund their deals. Find the big real estate lawyers in your area and tell them you’ll be a private money lender. Come up with a standard like 65% ltv, 12% interest, and 1.5 points. Call the title companies in your area also. Learn on how to vet the deal yourself. Start small on like a 100k project or something and if you like it grow and if not recoup your money and move on.

Awesome. That is definitely something on my 'to research' list. Fast question, do I need to wait for the full length of the loan to make sure they don't default or is there some strategy where they flip them or do short term lending deals? What is the average term length for what you're talking about?

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Matthew G.:

@Uzi Pablo You should definitely not be an active real estate investor. Your skills are in business and programming and you should stick with it. Your focus should be on preserving wealth through real estate. Don't take real estate deals with better returns that are riskier, just play it safe now and don't lose it. You probably have a circle a of wealthy individuals that you know, so get advice from them and see how they invest their capital and who they trust. You want to get advice from people wealthier than you.

 That's an extremely good piece of advice about only listening to those who have more than you (money, skills, etc), that's been one piece of advice I give to others who ask me.

That said, I figured with RE investing I wanted to learn something new, but I suppose in the end you're right. For preserving wealth through real estate, can I reach anywhere near 10% or am I looking at the same level of returns as just a medium risk portfolio of mutual funds etc...

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Mike Krieg:

Congrats @Uzi Pablo I agree that you don't need to mess with active RE investing. You're a capital manager now. Learn all you can about multifamily apartment syndications, storage syndications, and mobile home park funds. Spread it around. You're attorney and CPA will be highly valuable of course. 

 Can you explain in laymans terms what MF + storage syndications are? I haven't gotten to read on BP about that yet (I will for sure, it's been a very busy week but I wanted to poke around on here before fully digging in).

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Thanks for the continued feedback guys and gals, this is all very helpful.

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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I would suspect ~2 or more years. It's in a very stable industry, so something extraordinary would have to happen to perturb that. It also will scale as time goes on, 4-5 million profit per month (before taxes) would be doable depending on some factors within my control, that I'm comfortable saying I can successfully do them (sorry for being so vague, but I'm sure it makes perfect sense why I am 😅). That hasn't happened yet though, so for now it's just talk, and probably wont happen for another 3-6 months. My initial figure is what I'm working with now, and it's going straight to my low to medium investment risk principal. I'll take a portion of that to experiment in real estate to try and get higher returns at a lower risk (for doing more work/involvement)

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Alina Trigub:

@Uzi Pablo 

1) Congrats on building successful businesses! Would love to learn what these are if you don't mind sharing. 

2) I wouldn't post any info on how much you have/make on a social media platform (f.e., BP)  if you didn't want a publicity. So I'm guessing this was an intentional post on your side. If it weren't, then you can still take your post down (it's your post, so up to you what to do with it). Otherwise, yeah you know it  - friend requests will be pouring in. 

3) Do not invest in anything until you educate yourself on the strategy and understand the risks involved. Everything has the risks associated with it, even NNN leases.

4) Sounds like you're looking for passive investing options, which entails no control, but also very limited to no engagement on your part. If that's the case, the options would include but not be limited to:

a) Lending money (warning: don't go into a second position). This can be done either directly with flippers or through intermediary companies that connect flippers with lenders (for a fee of course, but they verify the info for you)

b) NNN leases @Joel Owens is your guy for it. 

c) invest in syndications (btw, this does not entail multifamily only. it can be any asset class: MFH, SFH, storage, hotel, etc... The choice is yours as to what to invest in). If you need a way to find such investments or want more info, feel free to PM me.

d) invest in notes (performing or non-performing)

Again, education is the Key here. Read books and posts about these and other strategies on BP and outside of BP, pick one, and concentrate on it until you're comfortable to start investing. Only then take action. 

Best of luck!

 1. Thanks! I wish I could say, as I have a lot of great business input from having failed so many times. I can tell you all of it's possible because I am good at programming. Unfortunately I'm quite secretive at the same time as I don't like or want attention to anything I'm doing, or unnecessary competition etc. (And no, it's not bitcoin). I think I'll be closing an upcoming deal here quite soon and that amount will double or triple, so I'll have a lot to play around with (carefully!).

2. I've purposefully made everything on my profile very vague, and this is my nickname not my real name just so I can get feedback on investing. When I'm done getting the info I need I'll likely shut the account down and use an alternate BP account I have.

3 - 4c... such great info. There is so much to learn. Do you have any 'must read' basic books or BP posts? I am going through the beginners guide but it doesn't have much detail. Searching forum posts would be the obvious next step, but there is so much that I don't know if that's the most efficient approach. Maybe it is. I was going to buy the real estate investing book from BP and see about that as a step 2. But I'm open to anything.

4. Yes, I'm looking for mostly passive but I have NO problem getting my hands dirty. I'm not looking to dump money and then spend no time on it, if I can increase returns from 6% to 10% just by putting in some blood sweat and tears... then you can call me shirley. 

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

For STNL (single tenant net lease) where you are 100% passive and do nothing but get a check returns might look like this.

Newly minted leases or close to newly minted leases for primary terms ( new construction NNN, sale leasebacks, ground leases, etc.)

Dollar stores ( 2 million range and below)

Cap rate - 6.25 to 7.25 ( varies by quality of construction, location, etc.) Usually you can buy in with 30% or more down.

Value add ( not many years left on primary lease term) Usually bought all cash or with very little debt. 7.5 to 10 caps

Banks - New primary leases most go up in price to about 6 million and maybe 5 to 6 cap rates.

Value add - Leases fixing to expire could see up to 9 caps. If building is dark but still paying the rent sometimes 12 or 13 cap rates. Again lenders do not like these much so paying cash or low debt for LTV to curb risk in a lenders eyes on the loan.

Pharmacies - CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid - Usually flat rent in primary terms with most priced 3 to 8 million and a few up to 15 million. Cap rates usually 5 to 7 cap rates.

Value add you could see 9 to 10 cap plus.

Restaurants - national credit like Mcdonald's, Chick Fil A, Starbucks looking at mainly 4 to high 5 caps.

Credit goes into franchisee or mom and pop users then cap rates rise about 100 to 200 basis points and rental increases are generally higher at 2 to 3% a year versus national at maybe 1% to 2% tops.

Price

2,000,000 to about 5,000,000

Auto Stores ( Advance Auto, Oreilly's, NAPA, Pep Boys, Auto Zone,etc.)

Newly minted leases 1.5 to 3 million in price. Cap rates - 5.50 to 6.75

Debt for STNL properties currently ranges from about 5.10 to 5.9 depending on credit and lease terms with LTV. Amortization payment schedules most are 15 to 25 years.

If you want info on retail centers let me know.

Most multifamily buildings are about 5 to 6 caps right now (some 4's) for quality even the big ones. If cap rater Is higher generally area is bad etc. and with the type of money you say you have the headache is not worth the risk. If you buy multifamily at a low cap rate then rent growth has to keep happening to blend the cap rate return upwards at a good clip over time. If property taxes rise, insurance rates go up, and rent flat lines or has very little growth then those properties can cost you money versus commercial NNN the rent increases are set and the tenants are paying the costs.

 Absolutely fantastic info, thank you so much Joel. Now that I have some ideas floating I have some waypoints to start learning.

Post: Best way to invest several million+?

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Originally posted by @Gordon Cuffe:

@uzi 

@Uzi Pablo We should be asking for your advice. Your doing much better than most of the real estate investors across the u.s. You can take the advice of Grant Cardone and only buy apartments that are 16 units or more. You can become the lender and earn 10% without the day to day headaches of flipping, managing rentals, etc.

I would love to hear about your business's if you ever send direct messages to people here on biggerpockets. In return, I will tell you how I lost money in real estate investing and how I made money.  

Thanks a lot for those tips. 2 questions if you don't mind:

1. Where does Grand Cordone talk about his strategy? Is that one of his books or something? (I have heard of him but don't know his work).

2. Where would be a good place to learn about lending? Here on BP? I see a few people have also mentioned that in this thread.