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All Forum Posts by: Moses Lin

Moses Lin has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: Tax deductions that don't affect buying power

Moses LinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 1

Thanks for the response, Dave! Okay, part of that made sense and then you lost me.

Originally posted by @Dave Toelkes:

"If your rental expenses completely offset your rental income, giving you a net taxable rental income of zero"

-This is a true, my rental expenses will be more than my gross rental income.

"then you still have a positive cash flow from your rental operation."  

-This is where you lost me. If my expenses (renovations, mortgage, taxes, insurance, etc) are more than my income, on paper I have no positive cash flow. 

"The lender will adjust for your depreciation expense"

-What depreciation expense? The 27.5 year depreciation for the property? Or the depreciation of my 20k rehab?

Post: Tax deductions that don't affect buying power

Moses LinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Ashish Acharya:
However, you can avoid taking an expense via De minimus safe harbor so that you can capitalize and depreciate rather than an expense. 

Thanks for the response, Ashish! That's a new term for me, so I had to look that one up. From what I just read, De minimus safe harbor allows you to deduct the expense the same year (as long as its under $2500 per invoice) instead of depreciating it over time. In my situation, wouldn't I rather depreciate it over time so the deduction gets added back in? De minimus safe harbor would reduce my 2020 taxes, but would also reduce my buying power next year, right?

Post: Tax deductions that don't affect buying power

Moses LinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Michael McLeskey:

The main thing I wanted to mention was that technically you are not supposed to pick and choose what expenses you choose to deduct on your return.  That seems counterintuitive because if you omit expenses on your return, you would be paying more tax, but overstating income to be able to qualify for a loan is a slippery slope I wouldn't go down.  

Thanks for the response, Michael! This sounds super counterintuitive for sure, but I'm glad you mentioned it because I didn't know it. I was actually considering under-reporting expenses this year to boost my "income". I figured the IRS wouldn't mind extra taxes haha. When you say it's a slippery slope, do you mean it's against IRS rules or just a bad financial decision?

Post: Tax deductions that don't affect buying power

Moses LinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 1

Hello! Tax question from a new real estate investor. Right now, I have a side business making 100k/year and two rental properties I bought this year that cash flow about $800/month. If I deduct all my actual expenses, I'd probably pay little to no taxes, but then I wouldn't be able to qualify for a loan next year.

I know that depreciation for my business equipment and my properties are added back in to my income amount when I apply for a mortgage. Is there other real estate deductions that are also not counted against my income? Like renovation costs?

My question is, how can i maximize my buying power while minimizing my tax bill?