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All Forum Posts by: Mila F.

Mila F. has started 8 posts and replied 46 times.

Quote from @Lisa Hammond:
Quote from @Tim Miller:

@Mila F. @Matt Devincenzo Matt is 100% right, they went online to some website to get a fake letter. Because there is no such thing as "Registering" an ESA animal! I also second Matt suggestion, you should signup for petscreening.com and let them sort this out. 


 I hate sites that won't give a price without going through Request A Demo. I've asked around and not only can I not get a price for petscreening.com I don't think we can "require" that tenants go through them? 


 Petscreening is free for landlords, tenants pay a small fee per pet, and zero if they have an assistance animal.  I require everyone to sign up, even if they don't have pets. 

Quote from @Rosalind Pistilli:

Howdy! 

Licensed therapist here, I write ESA and PSA letters for clients when it's appropriate. They cannot have an ESA letter prior to getting the dog and the dog needs to provide an actual service. So the letter should say something like "soandso dog provides support to my client by calming them when they are anxious...etc etc etc" they need to have a diagnosis that supports an ESA and the dog needs to be old enough to actually provide the service a brand new puppy does not provide services, they require services. The only exception I make for puppies is if it is an actual service animal providing a specific service (such as diabetes dogs, or guide dogs) that will be going through specialized training. Even then, I will write that they are a service animal IN TRAINING and not that they are an ESA. Fake ESA and PSA letters have done such a disservice to the world. 

If they "registered" a dog as an ESA, they paid a fee to a fake site for a fake certification. It will be easy to spot. 

As for requiring spay/neuter, an ESA does not need to be intact to perform their duties, and you cannot breed an ESA because that animal would not be available to perform their duties while they were off reproducing. If they want the animal to be available for breeding, they cannot "register" it as an ESA. You should never breed service animals. 

All of that to come to this, I would not rent to these people. They are obviously lying to you...and I wouldn't rent to them...however, you can require that their dog be neutered IF you accept their ESA letter as valid. Other requirements you can have for their animal is that they be trained to perform whatever service they are performing for that person, be housebroken, not pose a threat to the security of others, not damage your property, and be licensed and vaccinated. 

Disclaimer: My knowledge of this topic extends only to the states I live in or am licensed in. 




 Thank you so much, this is very helpful!

Quote from @John Clark:
One of the problems you may have is relevancy: How does spaying/neutering affect your property as a landlord?

I suppose you might argue that it cuts down on aggression (get yourself firm evidence from a vet for that) and cuts down on uncontrolled aggressive dogs (un-neutered) from coming around, but otherwise, why would you care whether the animal is fixed or not?

Aggression aside, intact dogs tend to urine-mark their territory, incl indoors. Really don't want pet-pissed walls at my houses. 

Quote from @Lisa Hammond:
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Quote from @Dawn P.:

So the puppy magically became an ESA when they were told they'd have to get him neutered? 

Hopefully you have other, better qualified applicants to go with or can deny this couple on something else (credit, income) so you don't have to deal with their nonsense.

They said in their first inquiry they were getting a puppy. When I said no puppies, and never unfixed dogs, they stated they'd be registering him as ESA, and that they will not be neutering because they plan to breed him. Now they are writing back informing me that he's been registered as ESA.   
All the other criteria, at least based on their pre-screening responses, look passable. That's why I have to dig into my ability to require the dog to still be fixed, even if it's ESA. 

In terms of other candidates, I have enough unqualified ones, so there is that.

 That right there is enough of a red flag for me. Nope. Decline. 

Same here, I see through them and know it's not my type of a tenant. And I cannot stand liars. However, their high income/credit scores are a problem. Until now their (unfixed) puppy has been a reason I didn't even schedule a showing for them, but now since they got an "ESA", it's a different situation. 

Curious, can a legitimate ESA be kept with intent to breed? Just doesn't make sense. 


 We have a long list of requirements and I've never once in all these years had someone meet every single one of them. I just email that list and notify them they I'm unable to accept their application because they didn't meet one or more of the following qualifications. I never ever discuss which one, no further discussion needed. 


 I feel my requirements are strict too, but maybe I'm missing something. Would it be too much to ask what yours are (via private messaging, of course)?

Quote from @Lisa Hammond:
Quote from @Mila F.:
Quote from @Dawn P.:

So the puppy magically became an ESA when they were told they'd have to get him neutered? 

Hopefully you have other, better qualified applicants to go with or can deny this couple on something else (credit, income) so you don't have to deal with their nonsense.

They said in their first inquiry they were getting a puppy. When I said no puppies, and never unfixed dogs, they stated they'd be registering him as ESA, and that they will not be neutering because they plan to breed him. Now they are writing back informing me that he's been registered as ESA.   
All the other criteria, at least based on their pre-screening responses, look passable. That's why I have to dig into my ability to require the dog to still be fixed, even if it's ESA. 

In terms of other candidates, I have enough unqualified ones, so there is that.

 That right there is enough of a red flag for me. Nope. Decline. 

Same here, I see through them and know it's not my type of a tenant. And I cannot stand liars. However, their high income/credit scores are a problem. Until now their (unfixed) puppy has been a reason I didn't even schedule a showing for them, but now since they got an "ESA", it's a different situation. 

Curious, can a legitimate ESA be kept with intent to breed? Just doesn't make sense. 

Quote from @Dawn P.:

So the puppy magically became an ESA when they were told they'd have to get him neutered? 

Hopefully you have other, better qualified applicants to go with or can deny this couple on something else (credit, income) so you don't have to deal with their nonsense.

They said in their first inquiry they were getting a puppy. When I said no puppies, and never unfixed dogs, they stated they'd be registering him as ESA, and that they will not be neutering because they plan to breed him. Now they are writing back informing me that he's been registered as ESA.   
All the other criteria, at least based on their pre-screening responses, look passable. That's why I have to dig into my ability to require the dog to still be fixed, even if it's ESA. 

In terms of other candidates, I have enough unqualified ones, so there is that.

@Janice R. - thank you, this is helpful. I will look into that. 

Quote from @Scott Mac:

 Thanks, Scott, there is nothing there about what I'm looking for. I'm trying to understand if it's legal/ not legal to require for all dogs/cats to be fixed, including ESAs.

I have a young couple with a retriever puppy bombarding me with inquiries. I told them puppies and unfixed dogs would be a no-go for us. They said they don't plan on fixing the dog because they want to breed him (!!). Now they are saying they just registered the dog as ESA.  Obviously, ESA letter (if legitimate) gets them around the dog age, but what about spaying/neutering?  Is this legal of me to still require the ESA dog to be fixed?

In GA, it's on the owner of the property where the tree had landed, and it is not a responsibility of the tree owner, unless there is a documented case of negligence.   

We just dealt with this over the last Christmas, when we had strong winds and deep freeze. A neighbor next to one of our rentals sent me a text saying "No thank you, we already have a Christmas tree!" . He attached a photo of our pine tree resting on top of his newish truck. By law, taking care of all of the damage, including the tree removal/cleanup, would be on him. Being a great neighbor he is, he didn't ask for anything. Regardless, we had our tree crew there within an hour and had everything cleaned up at our expense. We also wanted to cover his auto insurance deductible, but he wouldn't accept it. Bottom line - there is law, but it also makes sense to have happy neighbors, especially with rentals.