@Dell Schlabach The thing is some of these properties still cash flow even after a lumped purchase/rehab refinance, its just too thin for where I want to be.
Just to clarify, I am most definitely not asking how can I not pay back rehab costs from a private/hard money loan, I'm asking for alternatives to funding the rehab costs outside of private/hard money that do not have to be payed off with the refinance loan.
You're not wrong, traditionally these would not be deals with my resources. However, a house thats purchased for $70k using private/hard money, fixed up for $30k out of pocket (or some other means) with an ARV of $150k, rents for $1400 and can be refinanced out of private/hard money with a loan between $70-$80k is a deal though (depending on your goals) if you have the right means to purchase.
I'm not saying this is what I want to do, I'm a pretty conservative guy and I understand that no matter what way you slice it there is a lot of inherent risk. This is more an exercise in problem solving. A shift in mindset from 'I can't afford this.' to 'how can I afford this?'. This is what the creative financing section is all about right?