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All Forum Posts by: Mike Perez

Mike Perez has started 1 posts and replied 5 times.

Quote from @Chris Mignone:
Quote from @Mike Perez:

I live in California and currently own a duplex and self manage it. I’ve been researching for years on OOS investment properties as California is hard to find cash flow properties. I’ve came close to pulling the trigger, but never did.
I currently have $100,000 available on a HELOC I will be using, and also have great credit for financing if needed.
Im looking for an agent who can assist me with everything from purchasing, possibly rehab if needed, to property Managment.  I would like to keep my first OOS investment price fairly low so I can trust the process and build confidence so I can build my portfolio. I’m open to any market, and like multi family due to better cash flow. Thanks In advance. 

Mike Perez 


 Hey Mike,

Congrats on getting going. It took me a long time to get the guts to invest OOS but I am so glad that I did. I started buying in Northern Alabama, mainly around Huntsville about a year ago. I have purchased a couple dozen properties since then and currently have 11 rental doors. I source all of my deals off-market through direct to seller marketing. Huntsville was recently rated the #1 city to live in in America by US News. The cashflow isn't great yet because rents have not caught up, but they will, and the likelihood of appreciation is still very high. Let me know if I can help you in any way! 


 Thank you so much! Will do. 

Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Mike Perez

We think the Midwest is a GREAT place for OOS investors to consider!

YES, we may be a little biased, but check out our blog here on BP comparing Detroit to other cities and Deep Dives on Metro Detroit cities & neighborhoods: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

Your biggest question shouldn't be WHERE to invest, but HOW you will invest!

Many OOS investors set themselves up for failure because they don't truly take the time to understand:

1) The Class of the NEIGHBORHOOD they are buying in - which is relative to the overall area.

2) The Class of the PROPERTY they are buying - which is relative to the overall area.

3) The Class of the TENANT POOL the Neighborhood & Property will attract - which is relative to the overall area.

4) The Class of the CONTRACTORS that will work on their Property, given the Neighborhood location - which is relative to the overall area.

5) The Class of the PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES (PMC) that will manage their Property, given the Neighborhood location and the Tenants it will attract - which is relative to the overall area.

6) That a Class X NEIGHBORHOOD will have mostly Class X PROPERTIES, which will only attract Class X TENANTS, CONTRACTORS AND PMCs and deliver Class X RESULTS.

7) That OOS property Class rankings are often different than the Class ranking of the local market they live.

8) Class A is relatively easy to manage, can even be DIY remote managed from another state. Can usually allot 5-10% vacancy factor and same for maintenance.

9) Class B usually also okay, but needs more attention from owner and/or PMC. Vacancy and maintenance factors should be higher than for Class A as homes will be older, have more deferred maintenance and tenants will be harder on them.

10) Class C can be relatively successful with a great PMC (do NOT hire the cheapest!), but very difficult to DIY remote manage. Vacancy and maintenance factors should be higher than for Class A or B. Homes will have even more deferred maintenance and tenants will be even harder on them.

11) Class D pretty much requires an OWNER to be on location and at the property 3-4 times/week. Most quality PMCs will not manage these properties as they understand most owners won’t pay them enough for the time required and even then it’s too difficult successfully manage them.
***Only exception is if an owner has plan & funds to reposition Class D to Class C or higher.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/776/topics/960183-what-they-dont-tell-you-about-cheap-rental-properties?highlight_post=5562799&page=3#p5562799

Also, SERIOUSLY consider - do you really have the time to be a DIY landlord or should you hire a PMC?

Good luck with whatever you decide😊


 Thank you for all the information. I will be definitely hiring a PMC. 

Quote from @Patrick Drury:

@Mike Perez
I would definitely recommend Columbus OH. It's a solid hybrid market of cash flow and appreciation. Columbus has lots of job opportunities and population growth. I currently live and invest here in Columbus OH.

Thanks Patrick, I will look into Columbus. 

Thank you for the advise. I am hoping to find a market where the houses are more affordable so my down payment wouldn't be much. Or use the BRRR method. I do understand your point.

I live in California and currently own a duplex and self manage it. I’ve been researching for years on OOS investment properties as California is hard to find cash flow properties. I’ve came close to pulling the trigger, but never did.
I currently have $100,000 available on a HELOC I will be using, and also have great credit for financing if needed.
Im looking for an agent who can assist me with everything from purchasing, possibly rehab if needed, to property Managment.  I would like to keep my first OOS investment price fairly low so I can trust the process and build confidence so I can build my portfolio. I’m open to any market, and like multi family due to better cash flow. Thanks In advance. 

Mike Perez