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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 54 posts and replied 3295 times.

Post: Million Dollar Flip?

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Originally posted by @Skip Gilliam:

I just found out about a deal on a million dollar house in my neighborhood, owner wants/needs to sell ASAP, this is coming from a real estate agent that lives here down the street. The owner of the house asked him what it would take to sell his home in 30 days or less. Agent told him $1,100,000. The owner told him to make it $1,050,000 and try to sell it without listing it. According to the recent comps in the neighborhood, this house should sell for $1.3 - $1.4 mill now. House is only 5 years old.

I just asked a friend to partner with me to buy and put right back on the market at $1,395,000. It is in near perfect condition and doesn't need a single thing done to get it ready to sell. He has already had 2 offers this week from neighbors but contingent on the sale of their home...he said no, $1,050,000 is the deal take it or leave it.

How would you handle a deal like this with a close friend? 

 I'd find out why he needs to sell, take care of the need and take the house Subject To or Lease Option with the understanding that I would be turning around and selling it for whatever I can get. All in writing of course, with proper title report, escrow and disclosures.

Post: Disclose Previous Homeowners Disclosure

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Originally posted by @Carla Morrison:
I’m getting ready to sell a home I am flipping. In my Seller’s Disclosure do I include items that the previous homeowner’s seller disclosure contained? For example, the previous homeowner’s seller disclosure checked yes there has been “Previous Roof Repairs” and “Previous treatment for termites or WDI”. I don’t have any proof of these repairs, just the previous homeowner’s seller disclosure stating it. Do I go ahead and check these boxes in my homeowner’s disclosure even though I didn’t make the repairs?

 I would put "unknown" unless you have personal knowledge. What someone "Tells" you is called hearsay and will not hold up in court. What if the person who you bought the house from mis-remembered and was actually thinking of a previous house? That has happened. When the judge asks how you "know" that to be true, and you say "I was told that" they will look at you with a blank stare. Not permissible in court. So, just say "unknown" if you think it might have been but don't have proof.

Post: Private Lending Questions

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Originally posted by @Jake S.:

@Account Closed My father and I have a very similar relationship, and have a lot of trust in one another. 

So I can draft up a short promissory note for IRS purposes, so they don't view it as a gift, and how would my dad set it up as a note in the bankbook?

100% agree on buy and hold. That is our intended strategy. I am closing on a duplex soon that will be buy and hold.

The one I plan on fixing, I believe I am going to fix it up, rent it out, and refinance in a year or two years. My dad is agreeing to a 1-2 year interest only loan on it, then when I refinance, we can then go seek out another property, rinse and repeat.

Since I am in the starting stages still, his investment helps me get going quicker and allows him to have a consistent % income.

He will be retiring soon and will be investing in buy & hold soon

 The new tax laws change how some people invest. I think the numbers are $157,500 income per year filing single or $315,000 per year filing joint. If he is under those numbers it is pretty straight forward. If he is above those numbers he needs to talk to a CPA first. But basic accounting needs to be done either way. You have to track each expense and he has to track the amount lent to you you, the date, and any payments you make along with any interest accrual. The simplest way to put it is that every time money gets involved (buying lumber, hiring a gardener, etc) you have to put it on the spread sheet. You track date, amount, to whom, why. Your dad has a spreadsheet with a line item for every time he funds the loan or gets a payment or accrues interest. Basic accounting. Keep your receipts. I sort my receipts by type. Advertising, materials, contractors, etc. and put them in an accordion file per property. I also scan everything and put then into a folder on my laptop and back the folder up to a USB which I store offsite.

Post: Renatus Education I’m Considering Joining. Any Advice?

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Originally posted by @Dawn Oree:
I’ve recently been introduced to Renatus. I wanted to know if anyone here has used their education and mentorship to become successful in real estate. It’s a $20,000 commitment. I’d like to hear your feedback on their program if you’re so inclined.

 Buy a house with a partner in a Joint Venture instead. You learn a lot more and you actually are investing. (Do a search in the search bar above for details.) For instance, when I Joint Venture with people they get all of their questions answered and the training and actually own property. 

Post: Private Lending Questions

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Originally posted by @Jake S.:

@Account Closed Is setting up and LOC with my lender a totally different process? Just want to be sure so the IRS doesnt view it as gift money

@Will Barnard Thanks for the solid advice, really appreciate it. If the lender is, lets say my father, should I still take all the outlined steps? Where would one get title lender insurance?

So I should:

1. Get the title report
2. Set up a Promissory note through an Attorney?
3. Set up a Mortgage at the title company

Straightforward, but detail is important.

@Account Closed Definitely will be getting Hazard insurance on the property. Thanks for that tip!!

I have an LLC, and plan on putting it on the title, so I'll be sure to also use it on the insurance policy! I would have missed that

 I don't want to belabor the issues but as I said, if you know the person well and in this case it appears to be your father, the expense of $1,000 to $1,500 to have an attorney draw up a mortgage for $50,000 might be unnecessary. When I lend to my investing son, and it is a great deal of money, I transfer the money and it is a note in the bankbook. No promissory note, no Deed of Trust or Mortgage and no written agreement. I raised him the right way. A handshake agreement is golden and works for us. He has always paid me back because I taught him that is the honorable and proper thing to do. 

Your insurance agent should ask you how you are taking title when you order insurance. If they don't ask, get a different insurance agent. Tell them what you are doing and they will direct you to the proper insurance.

A promissory note is sufficient for the IRS and you should have a closing statement from escrow to support the numbers.

The biggest challenges are to stay under budget and to sell quickly. Time is not your friend when doing flips. You must fix and sell as fast as reasonably possible to make any good kind of profit. By the way, Fix & Flips are the highest taxed in the real estate investment world. You should consider doing Cash Flow investing with depreciation of assets and appreciation of property while selling to Tenant Buyers if you really want to become wealthy. Both you and your dad can be independent in about two years. That's what I taught my son to do and he isn't even 30 yet. It's also the least taxed of the real estate investment options. It's long term cash flow every month and no rehab worries or chasing the market to sell a property.

Post: Private Lending Questions

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Originally posted by @Jake S.:

@Account Closed The lender is a family friend, I know him well. Itll probably be a 1 yr, interest only loan.

Okay, so I will start with a promissory note and an agreement. Should a lawyer draft that up, or are their templates available?

I appreciate it!!

 Have a title company provide you with a report on the property so you know that the person selling it to you has the right to sell it and also that there aren't any outstanding liens against the property he didn't tell you about. This protects you and your lender from a serious misunderstanding if there are title problems or outstanding liens.

Make sure you take out insurance on the property.

In my case, when lending to someone I know well, I use an agreement and a promissory note and if the amount is $50k or less I don't do a Deed of Trust. Some people do, but I don't. I just do the agreement and note.

If I don't know the person or if the property is in a different state, I do the Deed of Trust (Mortgage). Compare costs and risks and let your tolerance for risk be your guide.  

Another way you might want to think about is to just set it up as a line of credit that you make payments on every month for but as one project finishes you can pay off the loc or if you have another house ready to go you draw on the loc to fund it. If your lender is looking for ongoing cash flow it makes things a lot easier.

Post: Private Lending Questions

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Originally posted by @Jake S.:

I have a potential deal in the making, and have a private lender lined up.

I, and the lender, are new to the private lending game, so what sort of paperwork/contracts need to be in place before the deal happens?

Really would appreciate any and all advice

 That is actually a "depends" type of question. The amount of the loan matters. How well you know the lender matters. How much the property is worth matters. Your time frame matters. How you are going to pay the loan back matters. Will it be amortized or interest only or lump sum with accumulated interest. Generally you should have a promissory note and an agreement as to what happens in the event you don't pay it off when due.

Post: Usps and Direct Mail

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Originally posted by @Julian Allen:

@Account Closed it appears the workers at the post office are just putting the UTF stickers on because whoever is at the post office doesn’t want to work or  do the sorting of all the post cards. I got more post cards back today from my second mailing with the mailing list being the same as the first mailing and coincidentally I got a call from a seller who was on one of the returned post cards which means they must have chosen to deliver the post card to the seller on the first mailing. Same name and same address in both mailings. I wonder if they would have done the same if I would’ve mailed the single letter mailing? Maybe the USPS view those differently and feel compelled to actually sort and deliver the single letters versus the post cards. 

 Put the addresses through SmartyStreets com and see if they come up as non-deliverable. If they do, enough said. If they don't come up as non-deliverable there is a problem with the letter carrier and it should be reported to the ombudsman at the general headquarters of the USPS. 

Post: What would be the impact of incorporating on my rentals?

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Originally posted by @Michael Nugent:

Hi, new to the forum here and I am looking into incorporating my rentals under a single entity and I am wondering how this would affect passive losses that have accrued over time?  Anyone with personal experience or referrals to a professional would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Mike

 You would make Uncle Sam very happy with your much higher taxes. Talk to a CPA to see what is best for your situation. 

Post: Mediation & Attorney's Fees

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Originally posted by @Jessica H.:

Hi all,

I would love your feedback on a couple of clauses in my lease agreement. Does this make sense? 

What I want to say:

- Before going to court, let's use mediation.

- We each pay our own mediation fees.

- List the usual exclusions for mediation.

- Attorney's fees in a lawsuit: tenant or landlord don't recover attorney's fees/costs. We each pay our own.

How it is written:

*) Mediation. Landlord and Tenant agree to mediate any dispute or claim arising between them out of this Agreement, or any resulting transaction, before resorting to court action. Mediation fees, if any, shall be divided equally among the parties involved. If, for any dispute or claim to which this paragraph applies, any party commences an action without first attempting to resolve the matter through mediation, or refuses to mediate after a request has been made, then that party shall not be entitled to recover attorney fees, even if they would otherwise be available to that party in any such action. The following are excluded from mediation (i) an unlawful detainer action (ii) the filing or enforcement of a mechanic’s lien; and (iii) any matter within the jurisdiction of a probate, small claims or bankruptcy court. The filing of a court action to enable the recording of a notice of pending action, for order of attachment, receivership, injunction, or other provisional remedies shall not constitute a waiver of the mediation provision.

*) Payment of Attorneys’ Fees in a Lawsuit. In any action or legal proceeding to enforce any part of this Agreement, the prevailing party [X] will not/ [ ] will recover reasonable attorneys’ fees and court costs.

I appreciate your feedback in advance! Thank you,

Jessica

 Contracts need to be reviewed by a competent attorney in your jurisdiction. Wishful thinking won't hold up in court. ;-)