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All Forum Posts by: Mike Musarra

Mike Musarra has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: New Wholesaler w/ Finance background & personal real estate experience

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10

Good luck with this new Path.  I admire the grind that wholesalers must have to succeed at this game while keeping a good reputation.  

Post: Cash / Hard Money

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10

Not a bad idea. Thank you. This was a curveball I wasn't expecting. Hard Money has always been seen as good as cash in my experience, especially with a POF letter.

Post: Cash / Hard Money

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10

I'm wondering if anyone's ran into this problem before and if they found a solution.  I put an offer on a potential flip and the realtor got back to us saying that they are only accepting cash offers.  Our offer was 120k via hard money which in my experience has always been treated as a cash offer.  Sounds like they want to see cash in the bank.  So, I'm dead in the water as I don't have 120,000 dollars lying around.  Has anyone else dealt with this, and was there a way to solve the problem?

We reiterated to the realtor that our hard money lender is as good as cash and can transfer funds with an accepted deal within 10 days.  The property is in the probate process.

Thanks,

Mike

Post: Potential Market Crash

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10

No, you would not pay less on the loan if the value of the property goes down.  Typically, you will lock in a fixed rate for 30 years and pay the loan off over time based on the amount you borrowed, not the the value of the home at X point in time.

Post: Purchasing a home with unpermitted bedroom

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10

I'm considering making an offer on a property that is listed as a 2 bedroom 1.5 bath as a long term buy and hold property to add to my portfolio.  The house is priced as if it's a 2B, 1.5BATH but at some point someone has added a "bedroom" in the attic.  HVAC, electrical, drywall, two points of egress, the whole 9. (technically no closet but for a few hundred dollars I can solve that problem.)  I went to the auditor site and the property is considered a true 2 bedroom and no permits were ever pulled best I can tell when they added the third "bedroom".  The additional bedroom adds to both the rental value, and significantly to the appraisal value, obviously.

Given it's priced as if it's a 2 bedroom and not a 3, it seems like a great deal.  But how big of a risk should I view this as?  It appears to have been there quite some time without issues.  Is the juice worth the squeeze?

These sorts of questions are inherently subjective to the risk profile of the investor - but I'd like to hear some other perspectives on it.


Thanks to anyone willing to share their insight.


Mike

Post: Ballooning out of a Hard Money Loan

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Stephanie Medellin:

Do you absolutely need cash out?  You can potentially qualify for a regular rate & term refinance of the 91k loan (plus closing costs) within 12 months.  

You could also start your transaction ahead of the 12 month mark and plan to close right at the end of the 12 months for a cash out refinance.  You don't have to wait for 12 months to pass to apply for the new loan.  You just can't close before 12 months is up.  You can talk to your new lender to plan your closing around this timeline.


 Thanks for that clarification.  It's not absolutely needed regarding the cash out.  But it's more preferable. 

Post: STR Chandler AZ Rental

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Josh Young:

@Laura Au the property looks nice, but I think it's overpriced. I would recommend lowering the price to avoid vacancy, every month of vacancy is equivalent to an 8% loss in revenue.  The price for a long term (longer than 30 days) furnished rental in this market is 10-15% higher than the unfurnished rate. I'd say you would be at $2200 unfurnished, so that would put you at $2500 furnished. The fact that Zillow says you have only had 5 contacts in 89 days confirms the fact that you are over priced. I also don't see any of the terms listed in the write-up, I would add more details about length of lease, utilities, tax, fees, pets, etc. I manage other furnished rentals in the area and would be happy to answer questions for you if you want to reach out.


 I thought Zillow didn't allow users to see how many contacts listings have gotten anymore.  Is that information hidden somewhere?

Post: Ballooning out of a Hard Money Loan

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Stacy Raskin:

Some DSCR lenders will use the new appraised value after three months so you don't have to wait longer than that to get up to 75% loan to value (LTV) cash out.

DSCR loans won't use your income to underwrite the loan.

DSCR loans are based off of down payment, credit score and either actual or market rents so it helps to supercharge an investor's real estate goals and net worth.

Here's a bit more in detail about how rates are calculated for DSCR loans:

1. Credit score- the higher the best. 760-780+ generally gets best pricing for investment property loans with most lenders. From there every 20 point increment affect pricing differently. So for example, a 761 credit score will be in the 760-779 credit category, then going down to 740-759 and so on.


2. Loan to value ratio: The higher the loan to value ratio (LTV) is, pricing takes a hit. So your pricing will be higher for a 80% LTV loan than for a 60% LTV loan.

3. Prepayment penalties- usually 1-5 year terms. The shorter the prepayment term has an impact on increasing the rate.

4. Are you cash flowing the property? More on how that is calculated below. Is your DSCR ratio greater than 1-meaning are you cash flowing (according to the lender's criteria of mortgage, property taxes and insurance (and HOA) if applicable). Many lenders will not do a DSCR loan unless cash flowing. If they will do a loan with less than 1, the pricing takes a hit. This criteria is for 1-4 and 5-8 unit programs.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.

So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.

See example below:

DSCR < 1

Principal + Interest = $1,700

Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50

Total PITIA = $2200

Rent = $2000

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91

Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.

DSCR >1

Principal + Interest = $1,500

Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25

Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300

DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23

If a purchase, you also generally need reserves / savings to show you have 3-6 month payments of PITIA (principal / interest (mortgage payment), property taxes and insurance and HOA (if applicable). If a cash out refinance, many lenders will allow the cash out to satisfy the reserves requirement.

DSCR lenders generally let you vest either individually or as an LLC. It's a great way to increase your net worth and these loans can also be used to pull cash out of a property as it appreciates allowing you to reinvest money into new deals.

Happy to connect to discuss further.


 Thanks for the breakdown - very helpful.

In regards to how lenders look at the rent - I'm ultimately wanting to make this a Mid Term Rental if I hold it.  Given that these are shorter term lease aggreements, how do lenders typically view them?

Post: Ballooning out of a Hard Money Loan

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Jason Park:
Quote from @Mike Musarra:

I'm purchasing a home in a suburb of Cleveland with Hard Money.  My original intention was to flip the property and use the proceeds to help purchase a small multi-family home but am now considering holding the Single Family property as a rental.  

The Hardmoney lender will need ballooned out at 91k in 12 months.  I will not be able to do a cashout refi with a conventional lender for 12 months, and although Fannie and Freddie require a 12 month seasoning period for cashout refi's, it seems most convetional lenders, even in a straight out refinance (with no cash out) require 12 months as a policy.


Does anyone have any recommendations for long term lenders that will balloon me out on a long term loan?


ARV for the property will be about 150k - possibly 170k if converted to a 3 bedroom which is an option I'm exploring.

As they say, Thanks in advance.


 Hey Mike,

As mentioned above DSCR is probably your best option here! 70-80% cashout refinance. You're done with the rehab? Is it currently rented?

I would get a tenant in the unit and apply for a DSCR loan to cash out!

Hope this helps!


Not yet - I'm exploring options and seeing if I can avoid a 12 month seasoning period - looks like I can with a DSCR. Thanks for reaching out!

Post: Ballooning out of a Hard Money Loan

Mike Musarra
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  • Investor
  • North East Ohio
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 10

The suburb I'm buying into here is in the top 10 fastest appreciating cities in Ohio.  Granted, it's Ohio and not seeing appreciation like we've seen in Florida - but this area in particular is seemingly healthy. 

I'll be on the lookout for evidence of declines though - I appreciate the warning.