Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:
Nice. I'm getting "Mad Max" images in my head. :mrgreen: That's really not a bad idea though. We can carry concealed here but I don't know if I'd need a Class III FFL to carry an AOW here...we allow alot of Class III in our state anyway.... What was the Class III FFL license process like?
It's probably best to begin by explaining the license. Under FEDERAL law, no individual/corporation/trust needs a license to own any firearm. The Class III license is the license necessary to DEAL in firearms regulated by the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934, as amended. NFA firearms are machine guns, silencers, short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns, Any Other Weapons (AOW), and destructive devices. A Class II is a manufacturer's license and a Class I is an importer's license.
Bottom line: As I am still a dealer, I hold a Class III. Assuming that you just want to be an individual owner and not a dealer, no license is necessary. Your only requirement is to pay a transfer tax (nearly always $200.00 per firearm, but AOW is only $5.00 per firearm) to purchase one or to pay a making tax (always $200.00 per firearm except for machine guns; machine guns have been illegal for civilian manufacture since 05/19/1986).
If you wanted a Serbu, you'd only be paying the cheapie five buck transfer tax!
Also, a dealer's license grants no special rights regarding carry under FEDERAL law. State laws may vary. Furthermore, state laws may regulate what type of firearm can be carried. For example, ANYTHING except for nunchucks may be carried in Arizona. Utah bans the carry of cut down shotguns. Other states limit the carrier only to handguns.
Here are some other helpful definitions:
Machine gun: Any firearm that fires more than one shot per pull of the trigger without manual reloading.
Silencer: Anything whose intended purpose is to lower the sound of a firearm.
Short barrel rifle: A rifle whose barrel length is less than 16" and/or whose overall length (stock extended to its fullest position) is less than 26".
Short barrel shotgun: A shotgun whose barrel length is less than 18" and/or whose overall length (stock extended to its fullest position) is less than 26".
ILLEGAL IN INDIANA AS PER INDIANA STATE LAW.
Any Other Weapon: Gadget guns like pen guns, cane guns, etc. Breech-loading combo guns (a single-shot rifle and shotgun barrel on a camping/survival gun) whose barrel lengths are between 12" and 18" in length. Pistol-grip-only "shotguns" that are cut below standard shotgun length limits.
Destructive Device: Grenades and other ordnance that goes boom. Anything other than a "sporting shotgun" whose barrel diameter is greater than half an inch.
Speaking to the process of obtaining a NFA firearm as a non-licensee, it can be anywhere from easy to hard. It all depends upon your county of residence.
This is probably headed toward a thread hijack. However, I am a licensed dealer and love assisting new folks. Please let me reach the minimum required 10 posts and I'll be happy to assist on the email/PM end of things. Also, I used to live in Speedway outside of Indy-- and I still occasionally do the Indianapolis 1500 gun shows. We may be able to sit down to discuss the legalities and such at length there, too.
Sincerely,
Mike