Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Mike Farr

Mike Farr has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: Advice Needed - Sell or Rent

Mike FarrPosted
  • South Jordan, UT
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

Hey Mike, that really is the big question...20k or 100k, or anywhere in between. One thing to note, I used an FHA loan on my existing home, so the PMI goes off of that in a couple of years. That will make the rental of my existing home about $270 more profitable at that time. It would still take forever to match the profit I could realize from selling now though.

It seems like the consensus is to sell, and reinvest. I'm interested in doing so if we can get a high enough profit from selling. I guess the question then becomes whether I should reinvest in one or multiple properties. If so, then I need to figure out what kind of properties to invest in. Off the top of my head a duplex would be nice or a couple of condos. We won't be able to live in these, as we are moving to California, where the price of real estate is too high. So I'm interested in investing in Utah, and managing from California.

Post: Advice Needed - Sell or Rent

Mike FarrPosted
  • South Jordan, UT
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

Hi Greg,

It would probably be difficult at first to pay the mortgage initially. I could handle a couple of months (their deposit + personal savings), but any longer and it would be a real strain. I've found what appears to be a good property management company, so they would be instrumental in helping in that case. 

The local market appears to be doing well, I live in Utah. My agent thinks that my home may appreciate by about 3 - 6% over the next couple of years. It is more heavily owner occupied than renter however.

Post: Advice Needed - Sell or Rent

Mike FarrPosted
  • South Jordan, UT
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

Thanks to both of you for your help! Unfortunately I'm not able to sell or rent until March of next year - so I'm trying to keep my expectations in check. I'll try my best as a novice to lay out the numbers of both:

Based on today's values, I've been told by a couple of realtors that list price would be just under $400k, with the expectation that negotiations would bring that down to a conservative estimate of $365k (which seems high to me because it's almost $100k more than I bought the house for 3 yrs ago). If I sold for $365k, that would be a gross profit of $115k (assuming my loan payoff is $250k at that point). Minus 6% realtor fees and I'm at $93k. I'm not clear on all other fees that I would need to pay, as I've only sold one other home before & I can't remember what else I would need to pay. So I'm going to assume $3k in additional costs to close for easy math. That leaves me with a net profit of $90k. 

Now for the rental numbers. I've been checking comparable rentals in the area - and honestly there isn't a lot that have specs in the range of my home ( 6 beds, 4 baths, and 4,200 sq ft.). I have an older home ('78), but it is updated and sits on a park with 1/4 acre. In discussions with a property management company, they suggested a rental rate of $2,250/mo. Guest pays all utilities. So from that I would need to subtract my mortgage, taxes, insurance, property management fees (if I go that route), and maintenance/repair savings. That brings me down to a margin where I may not even break even. So I would consider not using a property management company, but I'm not sure the added stress would be worth making an extra couple hundred dollars.

So if I were to simply rent, I would really like to go for something near $2,400/mo, but I'm afraid there isn't demand enough to justify the price. 

If I sell, I could just pocket the cash and use it as a down payment towards our next home in a more expensive market.

Or I could sell and use some or all of the cash as down payment(s) on a more suitable lower cost rental property(s). 

Given this information, I'm curious what the consensus would be in your opinions. Thank you in advance!

Post: Advice Needed - Sell or Rent

Mike FarrPosted
  • South Jordan, UT
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

I currently have a home that is worth anywhere between $300k - $400k. We have lived here for 3 years and owe $260k (purchased for $280k). We are relocating out of state and I'm interested in using this as an opportunity to begin making money through real estate. 

I'm trying to decide whether to rent (I've been told I could rent it at around $2,250/mo) or sell. Based on current estimates, we stand to make a profit of $20k - $100k depending on how much we can sell for after all the seller fees are paid. 

With all the costs of renting I don't stand to make very much if anything off of the rental. But I would be able to keep the house as an investment for the long term, and it could pay off down the road as I pay down my mortgage. Plus it could be a safety net for us if the relocation doesn't work out.

I could also sell, and reinvest in more appropriate rentals, like town homes or condos. As I'm concerned that I'll have a hard time getting $2,250/mo for my home.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!