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All Forum Posts by: Michael VerBout

Michael VerBout has started 2 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: Purchasing pre-foreclosure from a relative

Michael VerBoutPosted
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I see one key piece of information missing. What state are you in?
I saw you say sheriff sale in the first post, and something about the bank taking possession in the last post.
In Texas, those are two different things generally speaking. If you are in Texas, I will be glad to offer my personal opinion of the proper order in which to proceed. I'll really just need to know which type of sale it is. A sheriff sale or a trustee sale. 

If you buy before the sale in Texas, you will be responsible for at least:
- Mortgage & any Secondary Loans
- Any State and/or Federal Liens (yes, including child support)
- Judgements (can be shorted if multiple properties)
- Unpaid Property Taxes
- Any municipality liens

 The property is located in Minnesota.

Post: Purchasing pre-foreclosure from a relative

Michael VerBoutPosted
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I have a relative who is going through foreclosure.  They are content with letting it go.  Are there any options I have before the Sheriff's sale to purchase the property?  I know short sale is out of the question (or is it?) since we are related.

They currently owe 140k on the loan, with a 10k lien in addition.  It needs about 40,000 put into it and is worth 200-210k.  The auction won't be until September 2019 in which I will have at a minimum 20k to put towards conventional financing.

Any sort of insight that is given is greatly appreciated.

Post: Purchasing pre-foreclosure from a relative

Michael VerBoutPosted
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Originally posted by @Brett Goldsmith:

What is the home worth as-is? Sounds like it's not a rehab project unless it goes short which would not be allowable since you are family if the loan type was anything other than a reverse mortgage. Not sure if it's a good deal to obtain it any other way without knowing it's current as-is value and what it could rent out for, reinstatement amount, mortgage payment, etc.

 It wasn't appraised or anything but a fair current value in my eyes would be 200k-40k(needed repairs) which is 160k.  It could rent for $1,400/month.  The current monthly paymemt on the mortgage is $1,500.  The reinstatement amount is approximately 12,000.

I don't have any intention of purchasing it unless I can get it at a cheaper price.  

All of my flips (6) have been funded with conventional financing/private funding and have been pretty straightforward.  The foreclosure process mixed with a relative is very unfamiliar territory.  My gut tells me I have to wait until the property goes back and the bank puts it on the market, and try to get it cheaper then.

Post: Purchasing pre-foreclosure from a relative

Michael VerBoutPosted
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If I put in 150k and then an additional 40k in repairs.  I'd be 190k into a property I'd hope to sell for 200-210k.  Assuming around 10k for commissions/closing/other fees there isn't any meat left on the bone.

My intent would be to purchase it for less than the loan.  If we weren't related I'd put in an offer for around 110k right now before it foreclosed.

Post: Purchasing pre-foreclosure from a relative

Michael VerBoutPosted
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I have a relative who is going through foreclosure.  They are content with letting it go.  Are there any options I have before the Sheriff's sale to purchase the property?  I know short sale is out of the question (or is it?) since we are related.

They currently owe 140k on the loan, with a 10k lien in addition.  It needs about 40,000 put into it and is worth 200-210k.  The auction won't be until September 2019 in which I will have at a minimum 20k to put towards conventional financing.

Any sort of insight that is given is greatly appreciated.