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All Forum Posts by: Michael Kaminski

Michael Kaminski has started 3 posts and replied 13 times.

Quote from @Corby Goade:
Quote from @Michael Kaminski:
Quote from @Corby Goade:

Came here to suggest a bridge loan as well. 

You are looking for a specific product and you have a situation that creates more liability for a lender, so it's going to be more costly no matter how you slice it. 

Get your DTI down by pulling cash out of an investment and paying taxes OR paying more for a bridge loan.

One other possibility- depending on the seller's situation, maybe they could carry a note for you in the short term with a balloon in six months? It's a long shot, but worth asking. 


Explain the seller carried note. The sellers are good family friends, so not worried about lease backs etc and the chance it becomes a legal battle. I'd hate to cash in my investments to put down more $ to decrease the DTI. I could get a family gift for $50k but that doesn't make much a dent in the payment to lower DTI. My other thought was not cashing my 401k but taking a 401k loan @ 10%. I can borrow $100k of it to add as additional down $ and I'm pretty sure a 401k loan won't show against my DTI, but then it will show as less assets (unless a 401k doesn't get really factored into everything since it's usually unaccessible).


Basically, you would close on the house with little or no cash down and all of the equity would be in the form of a loan by the sellers- you could agree to whatever terms you like for that loan. The better the terms for YOU, the lower your DTI, which would help you with the loan on your end.

After you own the house, you can start working on a mortgage to refi the loan that the sellers gave you and they'd be paid in full by the bank when you close on THAT loan. 


 But this does not solve the sellers issue of getting the money to help finish their new build. 

Quote from @Derek Brickley:

Hey Michael!

There are a few options that some people have used when they were looking to buy a new home before selling (and ran into DTI issues). The true bridge loan could work, but as you might have seen you'll be paying interest on that difference and so you may still run into DTI issues. The alternative we've used is a "Buy Before You Sell" program. There is an additional cost, but with that you don't make payments and there is no interest in the interim and you can still access the equity in the home to use towards your downpayment of the new home. Feel free to reach out if that's something that might be helpful for you


 Mind if I call you?

Quote from @Corby Goade:

Came here to suggest a bridge loan as well. 

You are looking for a specific product and you have a situation that creates more liability for a lender, so it's going to be more costly no matter how you slice it. 

Get your DTI down by pulling cash out of an investment and paying taxes OR paying more for a bridge loan.

One other possibility- depending on the seller's situation, maybe they could carry a note for you in the short term with a balloon in six months? It's a long shot, but worth asking. 


Explain the seller carried note. The sellers are good family friends, so not worried about lease backs etc and the chance it becomes a legal battle. I'd hate to cash in my investments to put down more $ to decrease the DTI. I could get a family gift for $50k but that doesn't make much a dent in the payment to lower DTI. My other thought was not cashing my 401k but taking a 401k loan @ 10%. I can borrow $100k of it to add as additional down $ and I'm pretty sure a 401k loan won't show against my DTI, but then it will show as less assets (unless a 401k doesn't get really factored into everything since it's usually unaccessible).

Can a bridge loan extend out past 6 months? IE: the current owners don't plan to move out for 6 months, I'll need a month or so to sell my home. Can I get a bridge loan for a longer period? 

Quote from @Patrick Roberts:
Quote from @Michael Kaminski:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Michael Kaminski

If your existing home is on the market the bank could do a traditional bridge loan which is short term and gives you time to sell your home - just want to make sure you have plenty of equity that when it sells it can pay off that loan

What state you in ?


 Ohio. What is the max length on a bridge loan? The current sellers are open to living in the current home we will be buying for up to 6 months and can pay me rent during that time (like a leaseback) , can I combine that with a bridge loan for (6-8) months to get me past that period.

id assume my loan wouldn’t be the same rate as no longer could it be for a primary residence as they’d still be living in it.

If i purchase the home and do a lease back for 6 months to the new hluse they are building is finished would I even need a bridge loan? All im trying to do is lower my overall dti enough to suffice the loan. And with the said would a $2500 lease hack payment even count in reducing my dti towards the new loan or does that not count? 




A lot of these details will be lender specific - especially for bridge loans. As an example, in your case, the bridge loan would be used to convert your existing mortgage into a temporary loan with a very low monthly payment. For instance, with how we set up our bridge product, we convert the house that you will be selling (your old home) into an investment property and payoff the existing mortgage with a bridge loan refi that has a 6 month term and monthly payments that consist of only tax and insurance escrow. The loan is interest only and it accrues and is paid when the loan is paid off - there are no monthly interest or principle payments during the life of the loan. This gets rid of the old mortgage payment and replaces it with a very low monthly payment, reducing your DTI.

Simultaneously, we close the new mortgage on your new home. This process allows you to get a new mortgage for the purchase and roll any cashout from any equity (whatever is leftover after the existing mortgage is paid off on the old house) as the downpayment - all without having to actually sell the old home first. The result is that you get a 6 month window in which to sell the old home after buying the new home without needing the income to carry two mortgages via DTI.

The term, structure, LTV, and rate for bridge loans will vary by lender. Using rental income via a short term leaseback on the new residence will not help your DTI unless you're getting financing as in investment property - it will only give you cash income to pay for the new mortgage until you sold the old home and actually moved. I'm not a huge fan of these short term leasebacks as you could have a serious problem on your hands if the sellers refused to move out.

Bridge loans like this are not without risk - in this example, you have to get the old home sold within 6 months, and this may require you to sell if for less than you would like. In our case, we would absolutely call the loan after 6 months unless there was reason for an exception. I'm not licensed in Ohio, but I'm sure you wont have any problem finding a lender who has access to a similar product. 


Quote from @Patrick Roberts:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Michael Kaminski

If your existing home is on the market the bank could do a traditional bridge loan which is short term and gives you time to sell your home - just want to make sure you have plenty of equity that when it sells it can pay off that loan

What state you in ?


I second this - a bridge loan is probably your best option. Equity and retirement assets wont do anything for DTI unless youre retirement age, have a plan in place to create income via IRA distributions, and have a sufficient balance for the distributions to continue for at least three years.

Mind checking out my below post and tell me if that would be a possible route I could go. 

Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Michael Kaminski

If your existing home is on the market the bank could do a traditional bridge loan which is short term and gives you time to sell your home - just want to make sure you have plenty of equity that when it sells it can pay off that loan

What state you in ?


 Ohio. What is the max length on a bridge loan? The current sellers are open to living in the current home we will be buying for up to 6 months and can pay me rent during that time (like a leaseback) , can I combine that with a bridge loan for (6-8) months to get me past that period.

id assume my loan wouldn’t be the same rate as no longer could it be for a primary residence as they’d still be living in it.

If i purchase the home and do a lease back for 6 months to the new hluse they are building is finished would I even need a bridge loan? All im trying to do is lower my overall dti enough to suffice the loan. And with the said would a $2500 lease hack payment even count in reducing my dti towards the new loan or does that not count? 



Currently looking at closing on a new home in november/december and do not anticipate selling ours for a month or two after we move. Playing with some DTI calculators I'll be hovering around 50%. My plan was to recast or refi a few months after we close on our current home. With all that said will the DTI still be a large issue if I have almost a $500k in equity in the current home , a couple hundred thlusand in ira/401k , and around $300k crypto that could become liquid? I realize I could cash in on any of the above and decrease the new mortgage in turn lowering my dti but my intention is to not face any tax losses by selling from any of those accounts before the end of year. Any reason to anticipate I may not get an approval still because of my dti?

So we are looking at purchasing a home (new primary residence) but we will be leasing back to the current owner for 120-150 days as the current build they are working on is being finished.

I was told if I apply for a mortgage and disclose that it will not be my primary residence outside of 60 days from the point of contract that it will require a larger down payment and a higher interest rate. Is there any way to avoid this? Is it as simple as contract the new home with a move in date within 30 days, and write the lease back agreement with the current owners separately therefore leaving it still as a primary residence? 

Thanks for everyone's help. 

Quote from @Bill B.:

More important than what you owe on your current home is why are you moving and what did you pay for it.

If you’re moving for a lifestyle upgrade or other non-financial reason go ahead and move. (Since it sounds like the new home is more expensive.)

Now the important question is what did you pay for it? If you have a gain over a couple hundred thousand I’d’ pry sell. Every $100k in gain up to the limits, $250k (if single) or $500k (if married) will save you $15k in federal taxes and I’m guessing $5-10k in state taxes?  So if you have $200k in gains you’d have to make $50k on your rental NET, after expenses. So you can pay $10k in taxes and be back to where you would be today by selling. Except you’d also have to make up the interest expenses on that extra $500k you borrow, so you have to make that plus $2,500/mo profit (another $30k) to pay the interest. 

So if you think you can net say $45k/yr in profit it will take you 3 years to break even if you ignore income taxes. Most rentals won’t bring in $4k/mo in profits. (Not rent, profits after expenses.)

Ok so I'll be netting more then $250k in capital gains. I have two questions, any home improvements I made like finishing my basement I know I can add to the cost basis of the home, do I need to have receipts for all my drywall, lumber , etc or can I just use a good faith estimate? Also, if I plan to apply that equity to the new home in a form of down payment, am I still taxed? Obviosuly trying to find a way to negate taxes on the cap gains over the $250k limit.