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All Forum Posts by: Michael Fish

Michael Fish has started 0 posts and replied 10 times.

Quote from @Paul Azad:
Quote from @V.G Jason:

This was so obvious with their note offerings at such yields. People just keep getting tricked by the high number, go for a realistic one and be happy. 

Hope the best for the investors. 

I don't know that their yields are that high, per se. They offer 12/15/16.7% on 3,4,5,6 or 7 year term promissory notes backed by no collateral, for investments of 50/100/200k levels, which at first sounds good but they appear to be making the loans possibly to a single non investment grade company "Retail Ecommerce Ventures was founded by Alex Mehr and Tai Lopez last year."
from www.pennlive.com article , Published: Dec. 07, 2020, 9:52 p.m.

"The company that owns the intellectual property of Radio Shack, DressBarn, Linens ‘N Things, Modell’s Sporting Goods and Pier 1 Imports has purchased the intellectual property of Stein Mart Inc.

Retail Ecommerce Ventures’ subsidiary, Stein Mart Online Inc. submitted the winning bid of $6.02 million at the November 18 court auction. The winning bid was approved on November 23 by the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Middle District of Florida, Jacksonville Division. The subsidiary acquired the Stein Mart nameplate as well as its private label brands, domain names, social media assets, and customer data."

Most of their loan companies went bankrupt years ago, have zero physical assets, other than the trademarks which were bought and now are trying to have an online store presence, no physical real estate. As such this company, Retail Ecommerce Ventures, can't likely get an 8.5% prime rate loan from a bank or even the usual 17-22% loans from the BDCs that loan to this small/middle market space (read BDC 10qs financial reports for their prevailing loan rates), so they go to Norada, which gets cash from promissory notes, loans out at likely higher than the BDC rates then pays the difference 12-15% to note investors etc. who if smart is also leveraging up their loan book to REVentures to juice their profits even more. All the BDCs - business development companies do leverage as well, but they hold first lien positions over the assets of the businesses they loan to as well as equity positions for more safety.  Why would Norada hold distributions? Non-performing loans, probably. 
Marco explains their business in these BP Posts below: where he seems to contradict himself, saying In the post that the notes "ARE backed by hard assets and collateral." but on website says they are not. Also says in post that the notes are not higher risk just because yield is higher. That is prima facie Absurd, as the definition of risk is the interest rate that merits a certain Risk, ie directly proportional. 



Marco Santarelli
  • Specialist
  • Orange County, CA
Replied 3 years ago

@Chris Yeung @Julian Buick @Steve Morris

Good morning gentleman.

Just to provide clarity in this post, there are three (3) separate companies:

1) Norada Real Estate Investments

2) Norada Real Estate Funding

3) Norada Capital Management

The Promissory Notes you're referring to belong to Norada Capital Management. These are not specifically real estate related. They are business notes backed by our portfolio of 10+ businesses which does include some real estate.

The note returns range based on investment but is double-digit. There are also bonus rates for larger investments. Interest payments are paid monthly, and Note lengths are currently 2- or 3-year terms.

Note that you must be an accredited investor as defined by the SEC.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Continued success!




Marco Santarelli
  • Specialist
  • Orange County, CA
Replied a year ago
Quote from @Michael Fish:

I, too, am interested in investing with their promissory note option. However, it seems extremely high risk as, to my knowledge, it is unsecured and only backed by a 'promise' to repay not any hard assets or relevant collateral.


Hi Michael,

Just to quickly address your comment here... The Norada Capital promissory notes do offer a high rate of return (interest), but I would not classify them as "high risk" because of the higher interest rates.

To correct your comment, they ARE backed by hard assets and collateral. Our fund includes a portfolio of over 15 companies that form the foundation behind the Notes. You can find more information on the website at or you can contact one of the Investment Counselors for more detailed information.

Continued success,


Marco Santarelli
Norada Capital Management
Norada Real Estate Investments
(800) 611-3060
NoradaCapital.com
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from their website:

WHAT FEES DO YOU CHARGE?

Norada Capital Management does not charge management or servicing fees of any kind. It earns a profit from the business loans it originates to approved businesses and real estate opportunities.

WHAT IS AN “UNSECURED” NOTE?

“Unsecured” means that, for making a loan to Norada Capital Management as set forth in the Promissory Note, the Investor does not receive any collateral in any of the company’s properties or other assets. The Investor simply receives the company’s written, legally enforceable promise to repay the Investor, and pay the Investor interest 


Hopefully, there are not too many Norada loans in non-accrual state, but yields of 12-16.7% have to generate much more than that in order to account for the defaults and thus Risk level seems quite high. 


 Yes, as I mentioned more than a year ago, it seemed high risk then due to the lack of collateral and a few other points I did not receive satisfactory answers about. I would still consider it very high risk even today. 

i am sorry to hear the situation may be heading south as it seems they are, or have, suspending distributions.  

Wish the best for recovery of funds for anyone invested. 

Post: Rent to Retirement?

Michael FishPosted
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Hello, 
Has anyone found the Rent To Retirement folks to be helpful for properties in Akron? We currently have properties in Toledo and are looking to expand to the Akron area. Have you found their services are useful for BRRRR only or for just turnkey only?
Thanks.

Post: Pace Morby Gator Method Course Review

Michael FishPosted
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Hello,

Just stopping by to comment. I sat through the "live" webinar and commented four times where Mr. Morby had made statements earlier that he then proceeded to contradict himself with, such as contact with wholesalers, requirements in finding deals, requirements and criteria for new investors--who do not have real estate or wholesaling experience--in finding their own deals, etc.  
Around the 1h04m mark in the webinar my comments were deleted and there was a message from admin that if I wanted any questions answered I had to email a tech support address.  I closed out the webinar after reading that clownish response; I will not be emailing my four questions to a tech support address. 
YMMV.

Did anyone work with this group?  I have contacted them about properties -- response has been mixed.  I am concerned their website redirects to Google.com.  In the end, my gut feeling suggests no further interactions with them. 

Post: Fund and Grow Question

Michael FishPosted
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Quote from @Jose G Delvalle Bueno:

@Chris Teti what company is this since I am considering reaching out to fund and grow


 Did you ever find out more about other companies offering business credit?

Post: Fund & Grow experience

Michael FishPosted
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Quote from @Joe Latoria:

Just wanted to say I enjoyed working Brandon Kroon @ Fund&Grow. They were able to get me 0% business cards in a timely manner to fund my first rental acquisition! 

What did you do once your 0% introductory rate expired on those credit cards they got you? 

I see. Thank you for letting me know more details about the opportunity. 

I, too, am interested in investing with their promissory note option. However, it seems extremely high risk as, to my knowledge, it is unsecured and only backed by a 'promise' to repay not any hard assets or relevant collateral.  

I've been following this for awhike now. There really do not appear to be any reviews or discussions about the program.. Has anyone joined the Inner Circle? Can you share impressions, results, value of the experience, any impact on your portfolio?

Hello, just following up.  Was anyone able to meet up in the Chicago area?  I'd be interested in connecting, even though this original post was awhile ago.  

Thank you.