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All Forum Posts by: Michael Dunn

Michael Dunn has started 1 posts and replied 5 times.

I went from zero doors to purchasing and self-managing/maintaining 23 unit apartment building. While it had a steep learning curve, I am happy I took the leap of faith. For the self-manage and self-maintenance approach, a single drive gets me to all of my doors. For example, driving to the apartment building allows me to handle late rent notices, lawn care, a couple maintenance repairs, etc. My time is used much more efficiently!

Merry Christmas!

Michael

In addition to the details already mentioned, I handed out a survey. All surveys turned in by xx date were entered into a drawing for a $25 gift card. The short survey asked about tenant satisfaction (common areas, outside, maintenance, etc) and allowed me to ascertain where to focus my attention. 

@Drew Cheezum Re: Listing Criteria:

-- 8%+ cap rate and 10%+ on the pro forma cap rate. 

-- Distance from my home (the apartments I bought are within 10 minutes of home)

-- I actually appreciated higher maintenance expenses because high NOI decreases NOI and lower NOI equals lower sales point. Since I do 95% of the maintenance, I'm paying myself (a dollar saved is a dollar made) additional income. Not surprisingly, this led me to class C properties.

-- For this buy, I wanted 90%+ occupancy rates. This won't be as big a factor next time. 

-- Price point: I wanted to put x dollars to work for me without having my efforts spread out among multiple property locations around town. 

-- Upside: The building I purchased has a 7,000 sqft basement with several partially built out units and a laundry room. I plan to complete those units at a fraction of what new or purchased units would cost me. At that point, I will refinance the property to pull that additional equity out of it. 

@Joe S. Depending on the criteria you're using, I suppose so. I've also invested in my 401k for a couple decades, bought/sold cars for profit, etc.  

@Bill B.: After reading your post last night, I pulled over to the side of the road to consider it. In hindsight, I believe you're absolutely right. That stinks... Won't make that mistake a second time.

@Jillian Dior: I'm unsure I'm qualified to offer that kind of advice. Investment decisions are based on an individual's criteria. The perfect investment for me may be a horrible investment for my neighbor or you -- risk tolerance, expected IRR, control, diversification, etc all vary by individual preferences. To avoid dodging your question entirely, though, $50k is plenty of down payment for a home(s) or small multi-family (depending on where you're buying. Don't forget to leave yourself some working capital. I just finished the How to Invest in Real Estate book and enjoyed it tremendously. If you haven't read it already, you should consider doing so.

@Lesley Resnick: $45.6k / door is on the lower end of the spectrum for the OKC area, but not crazy low. The building had some deferred maintenance, many older HVAC units, etc, but also had 96% occupancy rates for the last couple years. As people move out, I'm raising the rents 15% - 20%. For the units with remodels, I'm going a bit higher than that. Unit rents are $525 - $800. The neighborhood is lower income working class, but not a 'high' crime rate. I've provided the tenants with several months of notice that rents will be going up with their upcoming lease renewals. 23 units * $75 average increase * 12 months * 90% occupancy = $18,630 / year additional NOI.

Have a great day!

Michael

      @Brandon Sturgill: Re: Closing funds --> Without getting long winded, I sold a house in 2016 that I had strong equity. I invested that cash into oil & gas assets near the bottom of the market. Since I have worked in the oil & gas industry for 20+ years, this was a reasonably simple transition for me. I used some funds from those investments along with a 1031 exchange on a SFR I sold (rented it for ~2 years after personally living there).

      I started the ops account with $30k and am letting the rental revenue cash flow all the improvements. If I have enough funds to cover a remodel when a unit is empty, I do so. Otherwise, I do any necessary repairs and re-rent it. 

      Over the next couple of years, my goal is to transition (sell) out of the oil & gas investments and use those funds on a portfolio of commercial real estate.


      Have a great day!

      Michael

      Investment Info:

      Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment.

      Purchase price: $1,050,000
      Cash invested: $275,000

      23 unit apartment complex with six additional units and a laundry room that are partially built out.

      What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

      Wealth accumulation. Potential upside of handling most/all of the maintenance and remodeling needs was additional $$$ in my pockets.

      How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

      Loopnet.com; Worked directly with the listing Realtor.

      How did you finance this deal?

      20% down payment & bank lending.

      How did you add value to the deal?

      Raising rents, remodeling units as they become vacant, improving common and exterior areas, better maintenance and management than prior ownership provided. Treat the tenants like you'd want to be treated and most of them will treat you better.

      What was the outcome?

      So far, so good.

      Lessons learned? Challenges?

      Getting the final 'yes' on commercial lending takes a longer and is more involved than primary residence loans. Recognizing what the insurance company is concerned with before purchasing the building. In my case, the parking lot and breaker panels are high on their radar.

      Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

      Nobody I'd recommend.