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All Forum Posts by: David Masciangelo

David Masciangelo has started 3 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: How to convince motivated sellers to go with your offer

David MasciangeloPosted
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@Douglas Mcqueen one of the best books I've ever read and his podcasts are great too! Great suggestion.

Post: Virtual Assistant for cold calls

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@Antonio Malachi Happy do discuss. If I can't be of immediate help, I'm happy to discuss and try to guide you in the best direction and help that way.

Post: Marketing Miracle or Marketing Mistake?

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Realtors & Investors have more Key Tasks to complete and moving parts than any other industry. 

It's one of the reasons that not everyone can do it and do it well. As you grow one of the most important, but often under focused, tasks is identifying what is worth your time and what could, should be a delegated responsibility. If you haven’t, complete a Pareto 80/20 Analysis and honestly, do one about every 2 months. This will help you stay on track by finding inefficiencies and eliminating them and finding strengths and multiplying them. (Focusing on Key Revenue generating activities instead of getting side tracked)

One of the items most decide to outsource or hire an assistant for is Lead Generation. This is a great step but needs to be a careful one.

The good news here is, cold calling in the industry works, a lot! The bad news is over 90% of “Cold Callers” or “Virtual Assistants” Dive right into the “pitch”. It is a high-volume game but more importantly, believe it or not, this is a form of Permission Based Marketing. Why?

Because you cannot offer anything to anyone (yes, even cash for a home) that is not ready to hear it. I believe in today’s fast paced world the best way to find the best deals is by cold calling or something direct. Cold calling accompanied by Ringless VM, Mailers, ads etc etc. Placing PPC ads is great, as a secondary landing page method, however it is waiting for someone to take their time and find you out of hundreds or thousands of other ads. This misses most of the Sellers out there and in my opinion creates crazy and unnecessary competition because if they called me, they’re calling others as well.

David Ogelvy said, “On Average, 5 times more people read or listen to a headline or your first 10 words as read the book copy. When you’ve written your headline, you’ve spent 80 cents of your dollar! “If you offer your pitch too fast, you just spent 80 cents of your dollar and lost the deal”!

Did you get married on your first date? Would you want to? The answer is obvious, no. So, if sellers are human beings with real emotions and real lives, why in the world does every Lead Generation Company, Cold Caller or VA think they can decide if a seller is motivated in a 5 minute or less phone call? It is because they were trained with outdated techniques! Maybe screaming I have CASH in 2010 worked or We Close in 30 days, no closing fees or We buy it as is, etc. But studies show that a prospect is 10X more willing to respond to you or "buy" from you if they feel they are learning rather than being sold to. (Rapport, respect, and listen to them) Being SOLD to results in a feeling of being taken advantage of and is automatically rejected. It is simple logic that tells you these "high" call volume LG companies or cold callers are wasting their time and your hard-earned money. They have no idea on how or when to present the solution to the prospective seller.

Example:

Let’s say (TIM) is in the market for a new car. He’s ready to buy and has his money saved. He’s ready to test drive a few versions of his selected car. The “salesman” is only trying to shove his “best price” down Tim’s throat when, at this stage, Tim is going to buy… but he wants to test drive a few versions first… Tim gets annoyed with the salesman, leaves and goes to the next dealership. You see, the Salesman was overly eager to close a quick sale and lost his prospect completely by not knowing how and at what point to present his offer to Tim. Anyone “selling” (buying in this case) needs to thoroughly understand “HOW” to present offers and solutions and more importantly, “WHEN”! This way our prospect doesn’t run away like Tim in the car dealership.

Post: To Replace the Roof or Not?

David MasciangeloPosted
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@S Pong if you can see the inside from an attic check for real, threatened damage signs. If those are not apparent put a 6 or 12 month savings plan to absorb the cost for when you do replace it. If the damage is threatening, replace it.

Post: Virtual Assistant for cold calls

David MasciangeloPosted
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@Antonio Malachi Hi Antonio. I'm happy to discuss tomorrow if you like. Our service runs at $.34 or less per address. Includes 10k leads, LMS Trained Assistant/Cold Caller, 3 line dialing software, incoming and call forwarding, personalized vm, and if you have existing leads we contact and work them for free. Our website is on my profile so you can research us and then let me know if you would like to discuss. Have a nice night.

Post: Verified Motivated Seller Leads

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@Adrien S. It's all a question of time, expense and ROI for either of those exchanged.

Post: Which website is best to find accurate pre-foreclosures?

David MasciangeloPosted
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@Tommy Cangelosi Realeflow or propstream. Propstream could get overly expensive though.

@Cliff Orphe exactly. 1/2% is fair if your passing repeat business. Again, it all comes back to the solution provided for the amount of money exchanged and value to you as the consumer in this case.

Post: Verified Motivated Seller Leads

David MasciangeloPosted
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BP, I have to put this out there.  

I see "Verified Motivated Sellers" all over the place anymore.  What is that?   Because I've been in the Lead Generation business for years and have never seen a "Verified Motivated seller".  Their situations change, better or worse... Their thoughts on selling change, The husband changes his mind on a divorce case seller lead,  The tenant won't leave, etc. 

So what constitutes my paying hundreds or thousands of my hard earned money on a single seller lead?  You need to do the research, cold call or reach out to thousands of them one way or another to make the investment worthwhile. They simply don't exist.  Sellers are humans, with real life situations, with real emotions with real goals so what would define them as Verified?  Is there some magic website that I don't know about that legally binds them to only selling to me if I buy these things for $1.50 to $100 a pop?

I would cherry pick off the MLS, send mailers, rely on realtors or cold call lists of thousands before spending my money on one of these.

Please share your definitions of Verified Motivated Sellers so we can make this topic an interesting one.

Post: How to convince motivated sellers to go with your offer

David MasciangeloPosted
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@Luke Simonetti  
Hope this helps but it seems that the issue that these "qualified leads" aren't just being sold to you and the vendor is double dipping if you're competing against 3 others out of the gate!  What's your cost and what's your return on these leads is where you need to focus?  Not on pitching better to triple sold leads.

Before I could aid with some additional advice here Luke, there are some key factors missing that would help us help you.  

How many leads? What defines them as qualified? What is the initial response ratio?  How are you reaching out to them?  What is your script or pitch process?  Do you try to focus on their reason for selling or just offer the best price?

I don't want to overwhelm you but none of the questions after How many leads? and What defines them as qualified? matter here.

Here's why.  A distressed property does not always mean a distressed seller.  Actually more often than not, they are not distressed sellers.  It's not 2011 anymore so the I have cash is gone and the pitches based on that are not and do not work.  

To begin getting you a solution here, you need to know 

1. Your marketing cost

2. Appointment conversion rate

3. Conversion rate

The business of "qualified leads" is a seemingly inexpensive industry for the investor that grows into a 5 digit pride issue trying to chase "qualified sellers".

No seller is qualified until you have spoken with them, you have "interviewed" them, and you have decided if you can solve their problem.  Unless I'm missing something it sounds like the 3% of your segment market approach here isn't working for you.  

Analyze your current dollars invested, time invested and see if you need to do more to get a better idea on these "qualified" leads or if your conversion rate doesn't make sense then I would make a change and fast.

Here's a guideline I give to people:  Determine what your minimum return for investing $1 is... and that will lead you towards the solution of whats working.  

Invest $1 = ROI of $7?

Invest $1 = ROI of $15?

Invest $1 = ROI of $40?

If your marketing costs you 4k per month for, mailers let's say.  And those mailers got you 2 deals at 12K each.  For each $1 you put in it returned $6.  Not too great.

Now, If your marketing costs you 4k per month for mailers and those mailers got you 6 deals at 12K each. For each $1 you put in it returned $18. Much better.