Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Melvin Atangan

Melvin Atangan has started 2 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: Property management recommendation in Joshua Tree

Melvin AtanganPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Melvin Atangan

Encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.

To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.

Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!

Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊


This is absolutely awesome. I appreciate the advice and will continue to educate myself. 

Post: Property management recommendation in Joshua Tree

Melvin AtanganPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

Hello. Looking for any of your recommendation for a solid property management team in Joshua Tree. Thanks in advance! 

Post: Newbie to the community and REI!

Melvin AtanganPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Hamp Lee III:

Welcome to BiggerPockets!

I’m a year away from being where you are in retirement. 😉

This is a great community and once you learn your specific niche/strategy, you’ll have plenty of investors and resources to help you here.

I would only add to start small, but take action as you run your numbers.

If you have any additional questions, please don’t hesitate to message me. We can jump on a call.

I wish you all the best.

Hey Hamp! Congrats on your almost retirement! It’s great to be a DD-214 alumni haha.

Appreciate the advice brother. 

Post: Newbie to the community and REI!

Melvin AtanganPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

Hey Romney and thanks for your suggestion. However, I'm unable to locate the book you're referring to. 

Post: Newbie to the community and REI!

Melvin AtanganPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

Hello everyone! My name is Melvin and I'm so happy I stumbled upon this community. I'm a veteran who retired a year ago after 20 years of service and enjoying life more now that I'm able to spend more time with my family. I am here to learn and absorb as much information so I can gain enough knowledge and confidence to pull the trigger before my wife and I embark on our REI journey. Looking forward to connecting with all of you! Thanks in advance!