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All Forum Posts by: Mel Park

Mel Park has started 28 posts and replied 91 times.

Post: Appreciation: ATL home prices

Mel ParkPosted
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I don't live in Georgia but I own a few townhomes there for rent,.   3bed/2.5 baths - areas like Acworth and Marietta.    Bottom line I bought them ----halfway thru the Covid craze for $245k.   They were up to $345K value for awhile and right now, I believe they'd sell around 305K. '

I came to the area about 1 year ago and certainly the growth, the incomes, the diversity, all the good stuff was apparent. BUT - - man I saw all the new developments and I figured "ok, we're overbuilt....great".       I'd like to think I have *some* advantage in that the newer units are asking $2450-2800 for rents, whereas I'm happy at $2k.

For 3 years I've had not ONE tenant problem. Good management in place. 

But I'm starting to wonder if and when some appreciation resumes, and if and when market will dictate rent increases.

Appreciate any opinions - thanks

Thanks.  Question - if I go to the old insurance company or even a different one - the question will be asked  in layman's terms "have you been turned down for insurance and if so was it non payment ,structure, etc"--- at that point I have to say 'yes' and 'roof' right? Would that just cause them to turn me down? 

Also to clarify - just for argument's sake if I didn't have insurance on this particular unit - - would umbrella still cover me for liability on the unit that **doesn't*** have insurance? Thanks

I own (1) primary residence and (3) rental properties. Long and short, switched all my insurance. including auto to one company. The quote was cheaper, service was responsive. One one of my rentals - AFTER issuing the policy they requested an exterior inspection and I figured - it's a townhome in a nice area, hefty HOA fee, maintenance seems looked after. Well........they sent a picture of a section of the roof, some of the shingles are u and guess what- NO insurance on it now. So my current situation is this:

(1)Primary residence - worth 1.2mm

(3) rentals: Equity $500k. And just that 1 rental has no insurance. I've notified the HOA because roofing is under their responsibility but - I highly doubt it gets taken care of soon enough.

Does anyone know - can I buy an umbrella policy even though 1 of my units has no homeowners or rental insurance on it? .  I realize umbrella wouldn't cover property damage.   It's personal liability I am seeking protection from. 

This unit is owned by my LLC but certainly I have signed for the mortgage. So if something happens I honestly don't know if the LLC protects my other assets and I do have non real estate assets in my personal name.

I also wonder if I'm overthinking it in that if something were to happen, wouldn't someone have to truly prove I was liable or negligent? . Point being - if I'm renting your house. And I fall down the steps.  And nothing was wrong with the steps ....I can't prove it's your fault? 


Thanks

Appreciate all the replies I'm digesting.  Ok in exchange for a burger anytime you're in suburban Philly: 

6000+sqft.  Windows always have been leaky - fine, I get that.  Sealing helped a smidge. The following I' *don't* know if it's HVAC related, but here goes. 

2 years ago - 100% new furnace and HVAC due to flood. All good. However cold air comes before it gets warm. Noticeable.  Company adjusted differential - improved.   NOW here's the mystery:

Basement- gets REALLY cold. As in -as cold as outside. I'll watch a game down there - just fine then all of a sudden I need 2 sweaters and a winter hat. I FEEL some breeze. Infrared toy shows cold spots - but not where the air might be coming from.   When heater isn't going I feel TINY trickle from vents. - tiny - -NOT enough to freeze a 1500 sq ft basement so fast.   In the basement I hung streams of toilet paper....and when the room is still, no heat flowing - I notice the toilet paper swaying a little bit. I just can't imagine where the heck the air comes from because when I. see that I check the vents - nothing.

Main level - A lot of the cold is bad windows. BUT same thing. I'll walk the foyer now - it'll be ok. But within 1 hour, wouldn't surprise me if it's really cold.   

ANY ideas?   Heater dude claims furnace fine though I dont think he understood problem. He says it can't be a leaking duct in basement  because then we'd get no heat on main level. 

This is like the Loch Ness monster. If you sat in the basement or even main level I swear, within 60 minutes - with heater set at same temp (74).....you'd go from feeling warm, to really feeling cold.     Luckily I have an attached gazebo with simple baseboard heat - lol that and the outdoor pool are the two places the temp is consistent.    Any ideas what this could be? I don't know where to begin.

So my 1st world problem is a 6000{sq ft home on perfect lot - $20k per year in prop taxes. And I can't even watch a movie in the basement during winter. (I hope this  doesn't keep going in summer)


@Steve K.

Thoughtful comments I appreciate it.  

Question - at a price range of $1.2-$1.8mm.... I just assumed that those buyers want stuff turn-key ready to go.  Modern kitchen, latest fixtures, blah blah.   Am I wrong to assume that?  Thanks

Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Mel Park:

This question is not regarding an investment home but rather, my personal house. Was curious if flippers/rehabbers buy higher prices homes?    

My house is in a very desirable Philly suburb - great schools, close to I-95, lots of Wall Street/LawFirm/ professional types. 

REALISTIC ARV : $1,850,000

The catch: Needs $450k in work. This would be new kitchen, new master bath, full painting interior and carpeting.  A new entrance door.   Stucco house.    Next door to me is 1000 less square feet, 1 acre less than mine.  Sold for $1,850,000 a year ago.  

I'm wondering if I'd rather just wholesale this house versus get into the weeds with all the contractors, etc. 

Is this price point too high for rehab companies, flippers ,etc?      Thanks


Sorry to say but you are overthinking everything. Just talk to local realtors and lets the market decide the price. Why worry so much about flips/ARV ,etc. It's not your problem. There's huge demand these days for desirable location.


 Valid points all. 

The thing is to sell conventionally - potential buyers understandably would complain about the Ticky-Tacky stuff.   Sure I can sell "as is" but then I'm losing the profits anyway but I was thinking by wholesaling - absolving myself of the complaints.   For instance - someone buys the house - do they come complain to me because it's drafty and cold? Just one reason.

House is safe, livable, etc.  Only issue is the house is drafty and therefore a challenge to keep warm. 

Funny part is if I do all this upgrading - the house will be nicer than it ever has......only when me and my family are leaving it lolol.

Some good points on the ROI and the 875k number. I guess I was hoping....

1850-450=1.400,000 mill - 200k profit = 1,200,000 but I guess wishful thinking. 

No question that as much as it's a desirable place, homes do take long to sell because there's only so many people wanting a house in that price range.  Heck - then I drive around and just 4 minutes away ar 5.5mm houses.  Nice reminder....I'm not all that :)

This question is not regarding an investment home but rather, my personal house. Was curious if flippers/rehabbers buy higher prices homes?    

My house is in a very desirable Philly suburb - great schools, close to I-95, lots of Wall Street/LawFirm/ professional types. 

REALISTIC ARV : $1,850,000

The catch: Needs $450k in work. This would be new kitchen, new master bath, full painting interior and carpeting.  A new entrance door.   Stucco house.    Next door to me is 1000 less square feet, 1 acre less than mine.  Sold for $1,850,000 a year ago.  

I'm wondering if I'd rather just wholesale this house versus get into the weeds with all the contractors, etc. 

Is this price point too high for rehab companies, flippers ,etc?      Thanks

Quote from @Joe Davis:
Quote from @Mel Park:
Quote from @Jacob V.:

Keep in mind that origination points help make up for some of this.

If you're working with a flipper that's going to use you for multiple deals/yr and charge 2 points and 10% interest (which is comparable to what I'm getting now) your return will be closer to 10%, you'll know his deal flow will keep your money out, and the points up front protect you from a quick flip.


 Thanks for the thoughts.  Question..... you have a Flipper you deem creditworthy. You decide to make your loan.    What paperwork, lawyer stuff do you need to make sure you are protected? Is it cookie cutter forms, or is it something that you and the borrower meet at an office and sign?  If I do this, my intention is that things are smooth and drama free for both sides - but of course I need to know that if something goes sideways my "First Position" isn't just a security blanket phrase...but rather, something enforceable and real. Thanks


 You need to work with an attorney that can draw up your closing docs. Deed of Trust, Promissory Note, WDVL, Payment scheduled, ACH agreement etc. You need to make sure these are water-tight, and your lien note is going to explain exactly what happens in the event of non-payment. Ie - that you have the ability to foreclosure to recover your funds and any associated costs. 


 Thanks.....  do you know about how much that costs....and do I need to have a fresh one made for each loan, or could it be a template after the first loan - if it's in the same state?

Quote from @Jacob V.:

Keep in mind that origination points help make up for some of this.

If you're working with a flipper that's going to use you for multiple deals/yr and charge 2 points and 10% interest (which is comparable to what I'm getting now) your return will be closer to 10%, you'll know his deal flow will keep your money out, and the points up front protect you from a quick flip.


 Thanks for the thoughts.  Question..... you have a Flipper you deem creditworthy. You decide to make your loan.    What paperwork, lawyer stuff do you need to make sure you are protected? Is it cookie cutter forms, or is it something that you and the borrower meet at an office and sign?  If I do this, my intention is that things are smooth and drama free for both sides - but of course I need to know that if something goes sideways my "First Position" isn't just a security blanket phrase...but rather, something enforceable and real. Thanks