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All Forum Posts by: Medi Sarwary

Medi Sarwary has started 1 posts and replied 73 times.

Post: Who here is paying off their long term rentals?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48

@Bjorn Ahlblad @David Detweiler

What sort of funds are you guys investing in to stay relatively liquid for a deal? I have some of mine in vanguard ETF's but I'm wondering if I need it in a pinch for a deal how accessible it would be..

Sorry for hijacking your post Andrew :)

Post: Who here is paying off their long term rentals?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Andrew Neal we were paying off loans, but when house prices and interest rates started increasing, we decided to start saving cash instead. We have multiple loans around 4% or even under 4%. It is hard to pay those off and give up those low interest loans. We decided it makes more sense to save up cash to acquire more properties. 

While building your rental empire, leverage helps you scale. One you have enough properties to meet your income goals, paying them off makes sense. 

Look at it this way. Say your goal is $10,000 passive income per month. You could meet that goal by having $200 cash flow from 50 leveraged doors OR you could have $1000 cash flow from 10 paid off doors. The difference is future potential. The 50 door route will yield higher future income. So the point is, how much is enough? It just comes down to goals.

Well put. My risk tolerance is low so I'd be more inclined to go 10 door route but I think initially leveraging is the way to go.

Post: Where to keep cash reserve?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48

I'm in a similar situation. I use vanguard and love it but I haven't made many transactions so its hard to say how smoothly that would go. 

I think I will use a money market account in conjunction with a fund from fidelity/vanguard.

Post: Northern California wild fires here we go again

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48

Its really terrible. I hope the fact that its centered around whiskytown helps Calfire with water. 

Post: Are we in a Bubble??

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48

I think it varies city to city. Some places are probably due for a correction but the variables are so different for each region. 

For example, in the Bay Area the workforce has been blustered by many H1B visa workers the past decade. Many of these Individuals prioritize property ownership to the extent that families back home will pool their money and sometimes pay all cash of a SFH. This can change with new immigration controls.

That being said I really doubt the next dip will be anywhere near as severe as 2008. The big variables will be Immigration controls, the tech industry relating to California real estate, and oil/petrol for midwest states. 

Post: Aggressive Pre-payment vs. BRRRR strategy?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48

@John Leavelle Hey John, thanks for your response. 

I think the properties I was looking at were simply not suitable for the BRRR strategy like you mentioned. I would like to know how to find these distressed properties, do you normally just look at typical MLS websites? I want to do the numbers on potential BRRR properties but I'm having trouble finding examples...granted I'm looking in CA.

Post: Aggressive Pre-payment vs. BRRRR strategy?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48

 @Aaron Cullen that's interesting, Ive never heard of the advertising before. So the biggest variable for you is the rehab cost. You must have a reliable contractor I gather?

Typically whats the interest on a hard money loan? After you get your money out in 6 months you can realistically expect to pay the entire loan and the full renovation cost? 

Post: Aggressive Pre-payment vs. BRRRR strategy?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48

@Mike V. Hey Mike, that BRRRR sound ideal. So the bulk of the appreciation was created from the price you purchased and the rehab. Was it your plan from the beginning to BRRR this property? Also why did you put so much down on the place?

From my initial thoughts I didn't think it was realistic to have 1500K in cash flow after the refi but maybe this is much more common than I though hence the popularity of the BRRRR

Post: Aggressive Pre-payment vs. BRRRR strategy?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:

My goal would be to pay off every rental I buy in 10 years of buying it.

My first one paid off should be my second one purchased in about 3 years since buying it (2 years to go). I will then take the money earned from that and apply it to the next one and so on.

This is called the debt snowball and it’s what works for me.

In theory you should leverage yourself to the hilt and always be like that to maximize your returns. However reality is different and if you do that and the market turns you could be in for a lot of hurt, especially if you have callable loans or adjustable ones.

I also know that if I want to do this full time someday there's no way I'm gonna be comfortable doing that with a lot or mortgage payments. I'd prefer most of my portfolio paid off or at least paid down to probably 40-50 percent LTV.

This is what works for me, your opinions may vary

This is my current mindset as well. I want to be realistic so I dont see my rental income dwarfing the mortgage payments so much that its worthy of a refinance. If I'm making 1K positive cash flow after rehab, in 5 years that amounts to 60K, but if you pay it towards the principal in another 5 years your mortgage is gone and your cash flow is more than doubled. If the market crashes at any point, you can also refi then and skillfully soak up more units at a lower price point

Post: Aggressive Pre-payment vs. BRRRR strategy?

Medi SarwaryPosted
  • Pleasanton, CA
  • Posts 73
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Mike McCarthy:

The real question is whether paying off a loan at 4.3% is better than investing in something else that may get xx%

Most people shoot for their rentals to have a CoC return of 10-15%. If you can reliably do that, I would much rather pay the 4.3% to the bank so I can get another rental that gets me 12%.

But the answer is based on YOU. Do have a FT job, 401K etc and are comfortable, and just want some extra money on the side? Or do you want your REI to be your nest egg, paying $xxx/mo to retire on? Or something else? What's your goal, then work backwards from that.

Your absolutely right. The root of the issue is whether the investor can consistently make those 10-15% returns on forthcoming investments. If that's the case, BRRRR is a no brainer and the interest payments are leveraged for greater cash flow. On the other hand I'm not sure a new investor can realistically expect those returns in some markets.