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All Forum Posts by: Paul McCue

Paul McCue has started 0 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: References for Binghamton/Johnson City NY

Paul McCue
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@Chad Kastel, yes - the primary reason I sold the property was because I moved away. I managed it from a distance for almost 2 years, but I ultimately did not like the level of quality I was able to provide nor the risk. At that time, property managers were not easy to come by.

Second to that, I also sold the property to cash out on 15 years worth of equity.

Post: References for Binghamton/Johnson City NY

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Hi @Chad Kastel! You picked a good area. I used to own investment property there. I no longer live in NY, but I'm considering buying in that region again just because it's so good.

@Stephanie Jacobson is a real estate agent in that area that I trust wholeheartedly. She can connect you with a couple of property managers as well.

If you learn of any wholesalers, I'd like to meet them too.

Post: Interest-bearing security deposits

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@J Adams,

Regardless of the motivation, I think this is an excellent question. I understand that many people are not interested in the relatively small amount of money made, but there are many other reasons why this process should be understood.

Personally, I've owned rental property in NY, and I now live in PA. I am not familiar with PA law, but in NY (at least the last time I checked) you do not need to pay interest unless the property has more than 4 units, which mine did not. However, like you, I've always wondered exactly how that is supposed to be done. -- How many accounts? What kind of account(s)? How is it tracked? What about taxes? Etc.

I would assume the details on this vary from state to state (which also means you are likely to get some mixed up answers here). If interest is required by the laws of the state a person is investing in, they should contact an attorney from that state. In your situation, since it is not required by CA law, and you just want to understand the standard or "best" practices, I would try contacting attorneys in the various different states that require interest. That should give you a good overall picture. And if you do, please report back your findings - I'd love to know! I'm always interested in best practices.

--Paul

Post: Looking to buy properties in Binghamton, NY

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@Will Stahl,

Funny, I don't remember where, but I've heard of a brothel law like that before too!

I don't mean to dissuade you from investing in the Binghamton area. As I said, it's a great place to own rental property. I own what I consider to be an average priced property. It is in very good condition, and I have high standards when it comes to maintaining it. I have had great tenants for the last several years, and they have helped me take good care of the property and made managing it from a distance easier. The reasons I am selling come down to these:

1) Management

2) Money

3) Desire

Management:

As we seem to agree, finding good management in the area is difficult. Because I have high standards, I haven't trusted the few PMs that I've found. I have strongly considered starting my own management company in the area. Ironically, I feel more strongly about it now that I'm gone and searching for management, but since I've now moved that makes the idea of starting a company in the area much harder to accomplish. Managing from a distance without a property management company (and even without any paid help at all!) is not impossible. I have done it for almost 2 years. I think it helps to have good tenants who take care of the property AND are willing to report to you when something needs attention. With that alone, you can do it. However, I also believe it helps to know people in the area that you can trust - a handyman or contractor(s) would be great, but not necessarily required. The problems I see are 1) reliable information about the condition of your property, and 2) speedy attention to whatever needs to be addressed. Tenants, even when they mean well, are not always reliable sources of information, and situations can become emotional when something is affecting their peace and enjoyment at home. You will also end up negotiating/working with them on how to solve a problem that they often feel is only your responsibility. The most important thing, though, is to have someone who can get eyes on the property/problem on short notice. Even if they're not a handy person, that's ok, as long as you can communicate well with them. Personally, I have relied on tenants with varying degrees of success. At other times I have had friends help with this. Some were handy; some were not. Sometimes it's a favor; sometimes I've paid them.

Access to the property is always an issue though, unless of course it's a tenant. But even then, it can be tricky when you're dealing with more than one unit. Assuming you're not working with a professional PM, I strongly recommend giving the person you choose a copy of all of your keys. I've only recently had a friend hold keys, and we kind of fell into that arrangement, but it's helped tremendously! I have always had NYSEG (utility company) hold a key to access the meters in the basement, even when I lived in there. And for a short time, I had a large plumbing company hold a key as well (not all keys, just the most essential one). It's not cheap to use a professional person or company as your primary source of information, especially, for instance, a large plumbing company - I can tell you from experience, and I don't recommend it! haha But it is very handy to let them hold a key when it comes to scheduling a time for them to get in and do work. Coordinating schedules when your tenants are the only key-holders is a huge pain!

Anyway, to sum up, even though I started to iron out the details, my decision came down to management quality and management cost.

Money (or rather time + money):

Managing from a distance, whether you use an established company or not, costs more than self-managing locally. It's a cost that most people factor in up front (or should!), but I never had to before. Although I found a way to manage the property and still make a profit, the margin was thinner. Keep in mind, I own only one property! I decided that my choices were either buy more properties to increase my over all profit and spread out my overhead and management costs, or sell the one I have.

On top of that, I have owned the house for 15 years. I have a good amount of equity in it. I bought the house 100% financed, so in a sense, I have an infinite return. But once I factor in the amount of equity I've built up both through loan payments and appreciation (yes, appreciation does exist in that area, just slowly in my opinion, and some of it was forced), my return is decent, but I can do better elsewhere. And the longer I wait, the lower my return.

Desire:

In the end, I chose to do something different. My life is different now than it used to be. I work full time and have a family. Since I haven't trusted my property to an established company that could handle everything, it has required more time and effort on my part. I want to spend less time on my investments right now, not more. Or at least less time per dollar.

I love buy and hold rentals. And to reiterate (again!), Binghamton is a good place for that. Right now though, I have other ideas of where my real estate career will take me (lending, etc - more passive roles like that or managing short term projects like flipping). I am almost certain that I will get back into rentals in the future, and over the years I have worked hard to create systems to simplify, strengthen, and legitimize my future rental business. But that's just not where I'm going right now. Also, while there is a good chance that I will eventually buy more rentals in the Binghamton area, with the growth trajectory I have mapped out and my ideas of how I want to structure, it will involve buying a lot more units and utilizing paid management. If, at that time, I still can't find any management in the area that is up to my standard, then I just might start a company. :-)

Post: Looking to buy properties in Binghamton, NY

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Hi Will,

I'm surprised no one has jumped in here yet! I have owned a 2-unit rental property in Johnson City for almost 15 years. It is a great area to buy and hold rentals. Now, having recently moved away, I am selling the house. Here are a few quick things I can tell you:

- The Binghamton area has great investment potential with buy-and-hold rentals. Don't expect a lot of appreciation, but with the right purchase, the monthy income is good.

- Be careful of where you buy. This is probably true for all regions, but neighborhoods change quickly. If you're not familiar with them, I'd spend some time visiting and familiarizing yourself with them. Also, I like to follow the local news with a map by my side, so I can get a better handle on what's happening where.

- Finding management in the Binghamton area is hard. Finding good management is harder. This is one reason (but not the only reason) I am selling.

- Know what type of renter you are targetting and plan your purchase location, desired amenities, and marketing strategies accordingly. You said you are looking for student rentals. I can't list all the student neighborhoods here, but generally you're looking at Binghamton and Johnson City. You mentioned those areas, so I assume you know that much. Just be careful of people marketing to out-of-town investors. If you'd like to discuss more, feel free to PM me or ask your agent.

- Speaking of agents, do you have one? I am currently working with Stephanie Jacobson - she is great and very motivated! She is also investor-friendly and an investor herself. Other than "investment property" I don't know if she has a particular specialty. There is another agent in the area that is known for specializing in student rentals, but I was never able to get ahold of him.

- For student rentals, you might also want to look into the local laws on what constitutes a "family unit" and laws regarding absentee ownership/management. I don't rent to students, so I can't help with that, but I do know that those two topics were big issues several years ago. There used to be a lot of tension between local residents and students, and it kind of came to a head, and the city cracked down on them. It might not be an issue anymore, but I don't know. My feeling is that for the last several years now, the region has been warming up to students. I think it has to do with BU and the city working together to integrate more. It is starting to blend into a college town and will be very interesting to see how it all develops, particularly as BU continues to expand.

- Don't just focus on Binghamton University students. I know many people who attended Broome Community College and lived off campus. You won't find much student housing near their campus, but no matter where you buy, you might want to market to them as well.

Post: Buying a multi-family in the IBM plume?

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@Rebecca Mochel, I lived in the Binghamton area for a long time. Personally, I would not buy a *personal residence* within the plume. When I was last shopping for a house in the area for me and my family (2008-2009), I avoided that area. I would have similar qualms if I were renting. But that is me and my family. I don't want to take any unnecessary risk when it comes to our health, and my wife especially is very conscious of what we put in our bodies (natural food ingredients, avoid certain chemicals, etc - she's starting a blog on her experiences/life with these topics - good stuff!).

That said, there are many, many people who live in the plume. While it's true that a number of them settled before the plume was discovered, not all did. There are a lot of people who just don't seem bothered by it. I haven't kept up on the news of the plume for a long time, but years ago they were working on cleanup efforts. I don't know the status of it anymore or the effects it may or may not have on the residents. But as far as a rental property, I don't think it will affect your tenant pool too much. Neighborhood and condition of the property are still much likely to be bigger determining factors. And if you're concerned about the health of your tenants or any legal ramifications, I doubt it would be an issue. If you want to CYA, just make sure they are aware of it and that any future tenants are aware up front. Better yet, ask your lawyer since he's the one who told you about it!

All things being equal, I'd look for property outside the plume, just the same way I'd favor some neighborhoods over others. But if you found a good property and a good deal, I'd say go for it. No place is perfect.

That's my opinion.

Post: Eviction Broome County (applies other places)

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William,

Thank you for all that information! I had to deal with an eviction a few years ago for a property in Johnson City. It's very difficult to figure things out on your own. This is a great resource!

The courts won't tell you anything. They won't even tell you WHAT they can't tell you or WHY they can't tell you. They won't tell you what forms to fill out, what to write, where to get them, who to talk to who CAN help you - anything! It's maddening, really. It's like talking to a brick wall. I ended up calling a friend of a friend who is a lawyer, and he helped. Fortunately, he was very nice to me and pretty much did it at cost.

One thing to note: You must have a third party serve the papers - you can pay someone or get a friend to do it as long as they fill out the appropriate forms. Follow all instructions carefully. The first thing the judge checked was the paper trail - Did I have all the correct paperwork? Was it complete? Was it served by an appropriate party, in an approprate manner, and at the proper time? It turns out that evictions really aren't so scary as long as you cross your "t's" and dot your "i's." And a good, solid rental agreement helps too!

Another thing I noticed: Your link to the courts does not include smaller courts like the Town of Dickinson or Johnson City. I only see Binghamton City court. I tried various ways of searching for myself and my former tenant but came up with nothing. From what I understand, evictions should come up in background checks. So far, I have not seen any in the checks I've done, but I would think that if you pay for a background check that includes evictions, criminal records, etc, you should be good.

Post: Finding Financing in Binghamton, NY

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I may be late to this party, but I'm glad I read this.

I moved out of NY last year but am looking at buying more property near Binghamton right now. I've always liked the idea of using local banks and credit unions (local ties, strengthen communities, various other incentives, etc), although I would go national if necessary or if it was a significantly better deal. I did not realize, though, that I might have a problem with local lenders now that I am not in the area.

I still have accounts with SEFCU and Visions, so I figured I'd start there. Since you suggested it, I'll add Tioga State to my list as well. I guess I'll start making some calls and see who the investor-friendly lenders really are!

Post: RE Attorney and CPA in the York/Harrisburg, PA area

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Hi, William. Considering that you posted this question over 6 years ago, I hope you've found someone by now. I am a part time investor just moving to the York/Harrisburg area. I have not used a CPA in the past, but I am making some major changes at the moment due to this move as well as planning to grow my portfolio some more. I have been looking for a good real estate CPA in the area. I met with one who seemed great online, but after talking with him in person I wasn't sure he'd be much help. If you could recommend any, I'd appreciate your input! Thanks.

--Paul

Post: New REI Club- Binghamton NY

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Oh! I wish I had seen this earlier. Please let me know the next time you plan to meet.