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All Forum Posts by: Matt Brown

Matt Brown has started 14 posts and replied 124 times.

Post: Financing for second property

Matt BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Nolanville, TX
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 88
Originally posted by "Wheatie":
Investment property is not the same as your primary residence. A primary residence doesn't produce any income. While it may increase in value, its every bit as much a liability as a car.

An investment property will produce income. The lender will look at that income when considering the loan. If you buy good deals that actually make money, the income on the property will cover the loan. On big properties, like apartments, the lender will primarily look at the property, and may only check your credit to make sure you're not a deadbeat.

Find an investor friendly mortgage broker. If you find good deals, and do have steady income, they should be able to get you financed.

Straight out financing on investment properties will require pretty hefty down payments. 10%, maybe even 20%. Read here in the forums and you'll find some creative ways to do deals without having that much cash up front.

Jon


Why thank you Jon. That was the answer I was looking for. I didn't know if the banks/lenders distinguished between PR and IPs. Cool, good info.

Post: Financing Ideas for Rental properties

Matt BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Nolanville, TX
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 88

The "hard money" deal seems almost shady. I mean, like a loan-shark... instant cash, higher rates, etc.

What's the collateral on hard money? Is there any "legal binding contract"? Are these guys "legit"? With a mortgage lender they have all the forms and contracts and all that mumbo-jumbo to protect them... what about hard money?

Post: Financing for second property

Matt BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Nolanville, TX
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 88

I currently own the home I'm living in now. I used a VA loan in conjunction with CHFA and a buy down to pay 3.875 the first year, 4.875 the second, and 5.875 years 3-30.
Now here's the thing... I want to buy my first investment property and rent it out. I know I can only have 1 outstanding VA loan out at a time, but how do lenders feel about investment properties? I know with my first home I bought they looked at my income to debt ratio and wouldn't go any higher than like 45%, but since I already have one mortgage, do they look at that with investment properties?

Post: Question about investing???

Matt BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Nolanville, TX
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 88
Originally posted by "Heathen":
Originally posted by "crpell":
I am looking at a multi-family in my area. I was told by a mortgage broker that the certain city I am looking in a is a "depreciating market". Is it not wise to buy here or is it ok as long as the house has a positive cash flow?

You must choose the path that is right for you (should I add "grasshopper" here?)

Appreciation or Cash Flow. BTW, it is certainly possible to get both. Which kind of means you travel down both paths (so much for the Robert Frost’s "road less traveled" theory).

Let us use the cash flow model, since that is your question. Further, let us be absurd about it. We will say that in 20 years the property will depreciate to 1/3 of its current value. If it is a 2 unit multi-family cash flowing $100 per unit per month after all expenses, should you buy? We are assuming you factored in all expenses, repairs, rehab, ad costs, etc. Further, we are assuming you have no down payment (if any of these things are not true, let me know and we will work them in during a future post).

In 20 years you will have taken cash profits:

$200 per month = $2,400 per year = $48,000

you will have paid off the mortgage and now own the property free and clear

Who cares what it is worth? OK. Let us say you paid $30,000. It is now worth $10,000. So when you sell at 20 years you only make a total of $58,000 (in this example you do so with no money down, which means an infinite return on your investment).

I like this guy's point.

It's pure basics. Of course we could "what if" this to death by listing every single scenario, but he's just talking the bottom line. I like it.

However, I must add... Not only are you making a little bit of profit which adds up over time, and your house is getting paid off, but you have to think about all the interest you're deducting from your taxes over the years. Add that up! ;) Now this example is a single property, but if you buy another property every 3-4 years (being conservative) you're going to be making quite a bit of bank. Oh, and almost forgot, you're not just going to leave your profits in a safe in your basement, right? Invest that cash! Bonds/CDs at the least.