Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Matt Nico

Matt Nico has started 21 posts and replied 429 times.

Originally posted by @Nicolas Dib De Castro:

@Matt Nico I would suggest a Refi with Hard Money. A 30yr fully amortized Portfolio Loan on the properties you already have. That way it wouldn't affect your DTI, no need of proof your income, etc. and you can go ahead with your strategy. BTW it can be done with an LLC.

 

@Nicolas Dib De Castro This makes no sense for me at the moment. My interest rates are so low right now on the 3 properties combined (One is at 3.3%, the other is 3.5%, and the other is in the 4's) that Refi-ing into an investment property will literally add the amount of money of a 4th mortgage to my debt before I were to even get the 4th house. I'm better up saving the money I would need for a down payment

Originally posted by @Guifre Mora:

@Matt Nico lots of good stuff.

You can go to the commercial loan origination route this lenders focus on the income of the property and your fico score. Low fico is ok just LTV and rate adjustments on a scale. You can close title to a LLC and you could be asked to be the guarantor on the loan but won't be reported in your credit. This will clear your DTI and may reset to get favorable terms again.

Also there are bank statements loans available for self employed if you pass most income through the LLC.


@Guifre Mora

Thanks Guifre, This does seem like a pretty good option. I have a good FICO score so i'm not worried about that. Are you a commercial lender in addition to an investor?

Is the Bank statement loan a line of credit for a business owner or someone who is self employed? Because that would help me greatly

Originally posted by @Marc Izquierdo:

Hi everyone,

Prior to the crisis of the pandemic really started to take effect, I had a 2 bedroom apartment up for rent.  It was listed at a competitive price and I was getting a good amount of interest.  I actually had to deny 3 applicants.  I wasn't worried that this was going to sit vacant too long.  However, once panic set in a bit more, I haven't had much interest (as expected).  I'm wondering if others are in this situation and what you plan to do?  Are you planning on dropping your price to aggressively pursue occupancy still or are you going to just wait it out (assuming it was and still is competitively priced).  There is a piece of me that thinks that even if I drop my price, people still won't show interest because of fear of coming to a showing or other interactions associated with getting a new apartment.

I was also kicking around the idea of an "adjustable rent" type of strategy where I offer rent at say $500 per month for three months to weather this storm, then it jumps back up to market price (defined in the lease).  I would still underwrite the tenant based on the market rent. 

Just looking to get others thoughts and idea on this whole situation!

 Hey Marc,

I have a rental open as well. Usually I'll be flooded with messages to get it rented, but it seems everyone is staying put. I would suggest calling your bank up and asking to defer the mortgage in a week and a half. I think most banks will be willing to help out. 

I have my rentals set up very nicely to where I could charge about 1/2 rent and still break even, so hopefully you are close to the same position. My plan B would be to call my mortgage provided to defer payments. I have a plan to lower the rent if I have to, but I have not said anything to my tenants yet.

Originally posted by @Frank Chin:

Matt, I was in your shoes some time back. My wife and I had two good paying W2 jobs in the 1st case, and I had a business in the second case. Short story, I got my mortgages. I was a credit manager involved in credit and lending in the commercial area and understand the world of ratios, like DTI, how it's applied, how rules are bent.

Frank,

Thanks for taking the time to share your story with me. It does sound like we were in a similar situation. I have looked into the no Doc loans many times. Lenders are actually more than willing to give them to me. The problem I have is when I go to get a live-in mortgage. I'm looking for the 5% conventional where I can live in it and flip it, but they wont approve me for the mortgage. I agree I need to establish a relationship with a local bank, I'm just having a difficult time finding one.

Originally posted by @Ian Walsh:

Traditional lending has their own kind of criteria.  You might want to look into private lenders if they haven't ceased operations since the virus started.  Look for non institutional private lenders.  They will likely still continue to operate.

 Ian Walsh,

Could you give me an idea of how I could find local banks? I have done many searches in my area for banks, and most of the time I have gone into the bigger banks because I'm just having trouble finding the little guys.

I've tried: Wells, BOA, Regions, Addition Financial, A few credit unions, and 3 brokers.


Call @Melvin List. He is in Florida. He will EITHER tell you "yeah you're good to go, these clowns are clowns," or he will tell you what is "really" going on so you can adjust aim and fire for effect. Either way, you win.

Chris,

Thanks for this contact. I will get in touch with him and see what he can do.

Originally posted by @Brian Braddock:

@Matt Nico This is kinda where it gets complicated. It's nice to have a relationship with a lender so they know your situation. The title being in your name and the payments being made in the name of the LLC are enough evidence to show the lender that you are not getting that income and paying those expenses, your business is. The mortgage will still be in your name, but it's still up to the lender how they want to consider those numbers financially. They have the ability to manually separate business debt from personal debt if they choose to.

There is the option of completely refinancing the note and putting it into the name of the LLC that way, but as it was mentioned in your initial post, and again throughout here, it's not the best option because there are many regulations you have to abide by. And the rates are usually higher.

Brian, that was my exact problem....I had a relationship with a Broker who seemed to understand the situation we are in. But apparently not. I'm going to give her a call tomorrow to explain what you said about the LLC making the payments. Maybe that will be enough. If the 3 rentals I have were to not be in my name anymore, I would immediately qualify for a large mortgage.

The Refinance would be a terrible decision on my part. 2 of the 3 loans are at 3.625% interest or lower, so my mortgage is too good to change on them. The 3rd is around 5% so yes I could do a refi on that one into the LLC.

Post: HOUSE HACKING - BEST ADVICE?

Matt NicoPosted
  • Posts 448
  • Votes 306
Originally posted by @Sebastian Hernandez:

Hello BP Community!

I am in the early stages of learning about Real Estate and the different strategies investor can follow to reach their goals. I have been very interested in the idea of house hacking because it is a great way to save money in rent, generate some cashflow, pay-down the home using tenant dollars and potentially home appreciation. 

For those investor whom have followed this strategy or have studied it, what would be your best advice in order to be successful? what would have have done differently? or done again?

Thank you BP Community for sharing your knowledge!

Sebastian,

I have house-hacked the first 3 houses I've lived in. My advice would be to get out of NJ. Move to NY or across the river into PA. The taxes are a lot lower, and that will decrease your mortgage payment.

If you want your place to be full all the time, remember to buy in a good location. I'm in a place where I get a lot of college kids, so my rooms are never empty. You cant pick the house up and move it, so make sure you pick the right location.

 Happy housing,

Matt

Post: Loan Payment Deferments

Matt NicoPosted
  • Posts 448
  • Votes 306

I have actually done this once before. I live in Florida, and Hurricane Irma blew through in 2017. My roof was destroyed and my house was leaking water. The insurance company took forever so I decided to put the roof on myself. While I did that, I called my bank and asked them to defer payments for 3 months and they immediately put my Mortgage into a deferment. Basically, my loan got extended 3 months, so it will be 30 years + 3 months for the loan to mature. That is what a lot of banks will most likely do during this virus outbreak. They would waste 10x the money foreclosing on everybody.

Originally posted by @Brian Braddock:

@Matt Nico Not if you specifically use a quitclaim deed. Its only purpose is to transfer ownership of the property, not the note. A quitclaim deed doesn’t show any intentions to transfer the note. It assumes, legally, that the persons on the note will continue to be responsible for mortgage payments.

I did not know that Brian. So just to make sure I understand, I would be using the quickclaim deed to transfer the ownership from myself / my wife to my LLC, but on the mortgage it would still show my name? If this were to happen, my name would still be on the mortgage payment, not my LLC, so when a loan officer were to pull credit and check the DTI, wouldnt they still see that I own the 3 properties?